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Post by goldburg on Dec 13, 2016 8:20:23 GMT -6
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Post by mt on Dec 13, 2016 8:20:58 GMT -6
Trey Labat wrote this. Really good stuff
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Post by CrusadingLions on Dec 13, 2016 8:26:56 GMT -6
Good stuff. I have thought that having different sports playing in different classes to be a great idea. Such as Grace King could compete in 2 or 3A in football while their soccer team competes in 5A. Ascension Catholic baseball could play 3A, football 2A and basketball 1A for example.
Always enjoy reading Trey Labat.
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 8:53:51 GMT -6
Trey does a great job, and this is an excellent article. The freedom of information act is also great. It has exposed the hypocrisy in the split and will come in handy in any lawsuit that may come. The info on the minutes of an EC meeting on Many having 17 out of zone football players in their last Dome appearance is priceless.
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Post by fridaynights on Dec 13, 2016 9:09:53 GMT -6
I can tell you we may have had 17 in the school. I can tell you for a fact there was only one on that team. He started two games in his career.
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Post by goldburg on Dec 13, 2016 9:30:49 GMT -6
So u freely admit there is hypocrisy in booker and many's arguement and proposal Clearly by this article and what u just admitted many benefits from students outside there attendance zone! Whether they play football or not is irrelevant Finally a moment of clarity on this forum
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Post by fridaynights on Dec 13, 2016 9:37:20 GMT -6
No I don't. you guys are whiners.....Get a life. Keep whining. It's comical you guys thinking we are getting kids from all over the parish. LOL Hillarious.
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 9:40:57 GMT -6
No I don't. you guys are whiners.....Get a life. Keep whining. It's comical you guys thinking we are getting kids from all over the parish. LOL Hillarious. It's in the LHSAA minutes submitted by Booker. It doesn't mean they transferred in, they probably went toNany the whole time. But they are out of zone, and thanks to the hypocritical rule, no law was violated.
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Post by fridaynights on Dec 13, 2016 9:47:08 GMT -6
I'm telling you there were NOT 17 players on that team. Because of the state of our program we have kids from surrounding parishes and east texas(13 miles away) that would love to play for Many. They can NOT play for us unless they are in our zone.
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Post by btown on Dec 13, 2016 10:05:04 GMT -6
Great article, maybe he needs to run LHSAA. Look at how simple the fix is. Two thing needs to happen, LHSAA needs a new leader and LHSAA needs to enforce the rules and investigate.
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Post by goldburg on Dec 13, 2016 10:25:20 GMT -6
I'm telling you there were NOT 17 players on that team. Because of the state of our program we have kids from surrounding parishes and east texas(13 miles away) that would love to play for Many. They can NOT play for us unless they are in our zone. So what u are saying is that the state of ur program makes kids interested in coming to many? Interesting concept bc when it's a private school that would be labeled as recruiting by public people But at many it's bc of the state of the program I gotcha
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 10:31:15 GMT -6
I'm telling you there were NOT 17 players on that team. Because of the state of our program we have kids from surrounding parishes and east texas(13 miles away) that would love to play for Many. They can NOT play for us unless they are in our zone. So what u are saying is that the state of ur program makes kids interested in coming to many? Interesting concept bc when it's a private school that would be labeled as recruiting by public people But at many it's bc of the state of the program I gotcha That is so not true. Anyone in the parish can attend Many because they are the only school in the parish that has football. It's a Lhsaa rule, totally hypocritical, but nonetheless a rule.
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Post by btown on Dec 13, 2016 10:34:15 GMT -6
So what u are saying is that the state of ur program makes kids interested in coming to many? Interesting concept bc when it's a private school that would be labeled as recruiting by public people But at many it's bc of the state of the program I gotcha That is so not true. Anyone in the parish can attend Many because they are the only school in the parish that has football. It's a Lhsaa rule, totally hypocritical, but nonetheless a rule. Just asking can you tell which rule that is? I have been unable to find that rule.
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 11:01:36 GMT -6
That is so not true. Anyone in the parish can attend Many because they are the only school in the parish that has football. It's a Lhsaa rule, totally hypocritical, but nonetheless a rule. Just asking can you tell which rule that is? I have been unable to find that rule. From karmala, Nov 6, I'll type slowly so you can read it better.....BECAUSE NO OTHER SCHOOL IN THE PARISH HAS FOOTBALL AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE FOOTBALL AVAILABLE TO ANY KID IN THE PARISH IF THEY HAD A DESIRE TO PLAY FOOTBALL.
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Post by btown on Dec 13, 2016 11:08:19 GMT -6
Just asking can you tell which rule that is? I have been unable to find that rule. From karmala, Nov 6, I'll type slowly so you can read it better.....BECAUSE NO OTHER SCHOOL IN THE PARISH HAS FOOTBALL AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE FOOTBALL AVAILABLE TO ANY KID IN THE PARISH IF THEY HAD A DESIRE TO PLAY FOOTBALL. I hear you, but you stating it does not refer to any rule in the LHSAA rule book. There is no such rule.
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 11:12:48 GMT -6
From karmala, Nov 6, I'll type slowly so you can read it better.....BECAUSE NO OTHER SCHOOL IN THE PARISH HAS FOOTBALL AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE FOOTBALL AVAILABLE TO ANY KID IN THE PARISH IF THEY HAD A DESIRE TO PLAY FOOTBALL. I hear you, but you stating it does not refer to any rule in the LHSAA rule book. There is no such rule. I think it's a Sabine parish rule. The last two years we all had Parish zones so it was also LHSAA legal. Now that we back (allegedly) to zones a kid transferring in the 9th grade would only be eligible for freshman and JV. If he went in Jr high he would be eligible right away
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Post by btown on Dec 13, 2016 11:23:34 GMT -6
If any parent is doing this I would not rely on the school to tell me it is ok. This is extremely gray area with LHSAA and no place in the handbook is it clear addressed. Someone will tell it is ok and other will tell it is not and the little attention LHSAA gives to school moves you could be sitting there having to tell you child that they cannot play sports for 1 year.
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Post by tiger09 on Dec 13, 2016 11:42:02 GMT -6
I'm telling you there were NOT 17 players on that team. Because of the state of our program we have kids from surrounding parishes and east texas(13 miles away) that would love to play for Many. They can NOT play for us unless they are in our zone. So what u are saying is that the state of ur program makes kids interested in coming to many? Interesting concept bc when it's a private school that would be labeled as recruiting by public people But at many it's bc of the state of the program I gotcha No Goldburg, that's not what's being said. For privates a student could be out of zone, or parish for that matter and still attend and play. For Many, they would have to make a legitimate move to be able to play football. Not exactly the same thing
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 11:49:16 GMT -6
If any parent is doing this I would not rely on the school to tell me it is ok. This is extremely gray area with LHSAA and no place in the handbook is it clear addressed. Someone will tell it is ok and other will tell it is not and the little attention LHSAA gives to school moves you could be sitting there having to tell you child that they cannot play sports for 1 year. Gray? The LHSAA rules have been extremely gray since the split. Geez. We split because of zones and recruiting, right? Well the first thing the principals did is do away with zones and say publics can recruit up to 25% of their enrollment and be legal. Geez and you concerned about gray areas. It only shows their hypocrisy. If they had legit intentions they would have tightened the rules to prove their point further.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Dec 13, 2016 11:51:39 GMT -6
So what u are saying is that the state of ur program makes kids interested in coming to many? Interesting concept bc when it's a private school that would be labeled as recruiting by public people But at many it's bc of the state of the program I gotcha No Goldburg, that's not what's being said. For privates a student could be out of zone, or parish for that matter and still attend and play. For Many, they would have to make a legitimate move to be able to play football. Not exactly the same thing tiger09....Any kid in Sabine Parish no matter where they live can come to MHS and play football, they don't have to move to Many. This is because MHS is the only football school in the Parish, I know this because when I was at MHS I had friends that lived in Zwolle and Negreet/Florien zones that played football at MHS.
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Post by eag on Dec 13, 2016 11:53:20 GMT -6
So what u are saying is that the state of ur program makes kids interested in coming to many? Interesting concept bc when it's a private school that would be labeled as recruiting by public people But at many it's bc of the state of the program I gotcha No Goldburg, that's not what's being said. For privates a student could be out of zone, or parish for that matter and still attend and play. For Many, they would have to make a legitimate move to be able to play football. Not exactly the same thing Are you certain? Say a kid lives 500 yds from Negreet High school but wants to play football. Can he start Many in 9th grade and play?
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 11:56:56 GMT -6
No Goldburg, that's not what's being said. For privates a student could be out of zone, or parish for that matter and still attend and play. For Many, they would have to make a legitimate move to be able to play football. Not exactly the same thing Are you certain? Say a kid lives 500 yds from Negreet High school but wants to play football. Can he start Many in 9th grade and play? The previous 2 years yes. Now yes, but has to sit out varsity for one year.
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Post by eag on Dec 13, 2016 11:58:25 GMT -6
Are you certain? Say a kid lives 500 yds from Negreet High school but wants to play football. Can he start Many in 9th grade and play? The previous 2 years yes. Now yes, but has to sit out varsity for one year. Even if he starts in ninth grade?
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Dec 13, 2016 12:00:15 GMT -6
The previous 2 years yes. Now yes, but has to sit out varsity for one year. Even if he starts in ninth grade? As far as I know, if he starts 9th grade the student is immediately eligible. I'm not certain maybe Fridaynights can be of help on this one.
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 12:01:59 GMT -6
Even if he starts in ninth grade? As far as I know, if he starts 9th grade the student is immediately eligible. I'm not certain maybe Fridaynights can be of help on this one. No he's not If he lives out of zone.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Dec 13, 2016 12:04:47 GMT -6
As far as I know, if he starts 9th grade the student is immediately eligible. I'm not certain maybe Fridaynights can be of help on this one. No he's not If he lives out of zone. But what is the "zone"? If the kid want to play football he has to go to MHS, therefore is the parish the "Football Zone"?
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2016 12:09:32 GMT -6
No he's not If he lives out of zone. But what is the "zone"? If the kid want to play football he has to go to MHS, therefore is the parish the "Football Zone"? Many's school zone. Again, right after the split the principals did away with traditional school zones so the parish lines became the zones. They went back to traditional zones this year. I know it's as clear as mud but that's the LHSAA
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Post by LATigerFan on Dec 13, 2016 12:10:42 GMT -6
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Dec 13, 2016 12:11:05 GMT -6
But what is the "zone"? If the kid want to play football he has to go to MHS, therefore is the parish the "Football Zone"? Many's school zone. Again, right after the split the principals did away with traditional school zones so the parish lines became the zones. They went back to traditional zones this year. I know it's as clear as mud but that's the LHSAA I know, just trying to show how the LHSAA and a few Principals have made a mockery of all this.
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Post by sh34 on Dec 13, 2016 12:12:28 GMT -6
1.5 multiplier on "select "
Bring all back together.
Let a school play up if they want.
Divide total football playing schools by 4 and take that number and split into class A and AA (1A and 1AA, etc)
This keeps teams from playing against much larger enrollments.
Helps out the smaller select and non select from playing schools with double or even triple their enrollment.
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