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Post by wshs on Sept 18, 2019 11:13:37 GMT -6
I’m not talking about 1980s winnfield I’m talking this decade and now .The fact y’all are playing Lincoln prep speaks volumes about winnfield football. I have friends in Winn and they all say politics is what has destroyed that program. It’s ashame it used to be my favorite game to watch. I’m hoping the easy schedule gets confidence back so we get to see the old winnfield program again. I miss those games they were some wars. I was more referring to the 1940- 2010 Winnfield owning you all. We will get there again regardless of the numbers not being there just like we did before.
But you are right-- Coaching (and the politics associated with it) have pushed us down but we will be back.
As for the easy schedule, with the exception of Lincoln Prep I really don't understand what you are referring too. We have six district games we have to play, one game against Hodge that is our rivalry game played every year (for over 90 years), Caldwell (who is pretty good-- much better than Natchtoches Central), and Buckeye (not very good but were 4a last year-- playing on Thursday because of squirrel season)
I didn't like Lincoln Prep being on the schedule but with as bad as we have been the last few years, it becomes hard to schedule any decent team to play because they don't get anything out of it.
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Post by indy on Sept 18, 2019 11:29:01 GMT -6
No it’s not. We have 318 students from Many zone. You’re a bozo. Done arguing with you. So now you can find someone else to stir the pot with. Have fun you are way off base. True, 318 freshman to pick from. And good to see you are capable of learning. You got “you’re a bozo” right this time. And I’m not off base, but I get the narrative you are trying to preserve.
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Post by movethechains on Sept 18, 2019 15:31:56 GMT -6
Next year for fall scrimmage let's have Winnfield, Many, and ND. It could be held at a neutral site. Maybe Bolton Bears stadium.
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Post by movethechains on Sept 18, 2019 15:35:08 GMT -6
Oh, for the record, I was at a ND practice in August and I asked an assistant if we might schedule a game with Curtis in the near future. He laughed, pointed at Coach Cook, and said "that man wasn't born last week."
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Post by movethechains on Sept 18, 2019 15:36:53 GMT -6
But I don't blame ND for staying away from Curtis at all. I don't see Curtis on Manys' schedule either, lol.
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Post by irish84 on Sept 18, 2019 16:18:50 GMT -6
Notre Dame takes local farm kids and coaches them up. Why would they want to play a team that recruits state wide. All private schools aren't the same just like all public schools aren't the same.
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Post by irish84 on Sept 18, 2019 16:20:19 GMT -6
I laugh everytime someone says ND recruits. The qb is good don't get me wrong but who goes out an recruits a 5'6 guy for QB.
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Post by movethechains on Sept 18, 2019 16:49:46 GMT -6
You're right irish ,,,but on the other hand, there has been quite a few five foot six stars in high school football. But I seriously doubt if anyone recruited them. The all-time rushing leader at Eunice was LISTED at five six.
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Post by wshs on Sept 18, 2019 18:10:21 GMT -6
Next year for fall scrimmage let's have Winnfield, Many, and ND. It could be held at a neutral site. Maybe Bolton Bears stadium. I’m down regardless of knowing we get the brakes beat off us. One thing I can say for sure is throughout Winnfield’s history is we would schedule anyone within a reasonable traveling distance with at least one or two of our regular season games. And yes we got beat badly at times but we also won alot of them. Do the same for softball and baseball. As for Lincoln prep being scheduled this year I don’t have a answer. Maybe to add a victory or maybe it’s getting harder to fill the schedule because we’ve been so bad.
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Post by wshs on Sept 18, 2019 18:14:14 GMT -6
But I don't blame ND for staying away from Curtis at all. I don't see Curtis on Manys' schedule either, lol. So why do think so many people blame public schools for not finding it fair to be classified with them?
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Post by dogwalk on Sept 18, 2019 18:16:51 GMT -6
The title of this thread is very misleading. Haha. On our game this week, if we turn the ball over like we’ve done the past two weeks. We will lose. If we don’t, we have a shot to win. If LA would’ve been full speed last week, they would’ve beat us like a drum with all the turnovers we committed.
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Post by BSD on Sept 18, 2019 18:24:51 GMT -6
Notre Dame takes local farm kids and coaches them up. Why would they want to play a team that recruits state wide. All private schools aren't the same just like all public schools aren't the same. Your spot on, Hell their best DT is 185 lbs.
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Post by indy on Sept 18, 2019 18:47:26 GMT -6
But I don't blame ND for staying away from Curtis at all. I don't see Curtis on Manys' schedule either, lol. So why do think so many people blame public schools for not finding it fair to be classified with them? I do because y’all kicked the Catholic schools out with them. Check the records and see how many Catholic schools won state championships in football pre split. Catholic schools were part of the lhsaa since day one. JC, E, and LCA are family owned businesses subject to one persons morals, decisions, ambitions, etc. whereas Catholic schools have structure that’s comparable to a public school.
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Post by wshs on Sept 18, 2019 19:41:13 GMT -6
So why do think so many people blame public schools for not finding it fair to be classified with them? I do because y’all kicked the Catholic schools out with them. Check the records and see how many Catholic schools won state championships in football pre split. Catholic schools were part of the lhsaa since day one. JC, E, and LCA are family owned businesses subject to one persons morals, decisions, ambitions, etc. whereas Catholic schools have structure that’s comparable to a public school. Yes I agree that’s been an unfortunate side effect of the current format. But the Catholic schools share a good bit of the blame. The prop was brought up for a couple of years before passing. Ample time for the catholic schools to come together with the public schools and come to a compromise and figure out a better solution than what we have instead of siding with jc and eca. All of these schools knew what was going on and knew the public schools pushing for it had a valid point. At the end of the day each school picked a side. Your side lost. But it never had to come to that. Tell me this- was the decision to force them down in class in 2005 voted on? If so give me list you good at that. A list of all the schools that voted for it . How many were the large catholic schools? That decision was the main driver in the s__t ever being brought up.
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Post by louisianafbfan on Sept 18, 2019 19:44:58 GMT -6
I’ll take Oberlin, East Beauregard, Pickering, Kinder, Central Catholic and South Beauregard. I think all 6 games will be pretty close though.
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Post by indy on Sept 18, 2019 20:47:40 GMT -6
I do because y’all kicked the Catholic schools out with them. Check the records and see how many Catholic schools won state championships in football pre split. Catholic schools were part of the lhsaa since day one. JC, E, and LCA are family owned businesses subject to one persons morals, decisions, ambitions, etc. whereas Catholic schools have structure that’s comparable to a public school. Yes I agree that’s been an unfortunate side effect of the current format. But the Catholic schools share a good bit of the blame. The prop was brought up for a couple of years before passing. Ample time for the catholic schools to come together with the public schools and come to a compromise and figure out a better solution than what we have instead of siding with jc and eca. All of these schools knew what was going on and knew the public schools pushing for it had a valid point. At the end of the day each school picked a side. Your side lost. But it never had to come to that. Tell me this- was the decision to force them down in class in 2005 voted on? If so give me list you good at that. A list of all the schools that voted for it . How many were the large catholic schools? That decision was the main driver in the s__t ever being brought up. I’m not sure and I don’t know if there’s any record of that vote. But I can assure you that most Catholic schools have more in common than the average public school than we do with JC, E, etc. we have coexisted for decades and managed to keep a reasonable relationship. Again how many Catholic schools won state championships pre split? ND 4, st Charles 1, Catholic BR 1, Catholic NI 1, Opelousas Catholic 1, st Ed’s 1. I know I’m missing some but it’s irrelevant compared to JC and E.
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Post by ljswank on Sept 18, 2019 22:17:35 GMT -6
We look forward to playing those battle tested teams in the playoffs. It will be fun. At 0-2 I'd probably be more worried about getting that 1st W than anxiously awaiting teams in the playoffs, just sayin.....
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Post by ljswank on Sept 18, 2019 22:50:12 GMT -6
I’m sorry Pickering needs to play somebody. Their schedule is ridiculous. Why are you sorry? They played the teams on their schedule and beat them both. Just like Many, oh, never mind....
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Post by ljswank on Sept 18, 2019 23:00:35 GMT -6
I can see the district going 3-3 this week, and with a few breaks, maybe 4-2.
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Post by movethechains on Sept 19, 2019 6:51:29 GMT -6
So indy.....do we need a post-split, split? Public, catholic, and private but not catholic?
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Post by jonevils on Sept 19, 2019 7:01:11 GMT -6
I’ll take Oberlin, East Beauregard, Pickering, Kinder, Central Catholic and South Beauregard. I think all 6 games will be pretty close though. We (Kinder) have a shot if we play the game like we can. Last week we had a few miscues on offense and we were very poor at tackling. We had the opportunities and were the n position to make the plays but we couldn't finish alot of plays that we should have. Hopefully this rainy weather will give us an advantage with outlr ground game. I'm just not completely comfortable yet with picking us over St. Louis based solely on last week's games but it is a new week and things can change.
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Post by wshs on Sept 19, 2019 7:18:27 GMT -6
Yes I agree that’s been an unfortunate side effect of the current format. But the Catholic schools share a good bit of the blame. The prop was brought up for a couple of years before passing. Ample time for the catholic schools to come together with the public schools and come to a compromise and figure out a better solution than what we have instead of siding with jc and eca. All of these schools knew what was going on and knew the public schools pushing for it had a valid point. At the end of the day each school picked a side. Your side lost. But it never had to come to that. Tell me this- was the decision to force them down in class in 2005 voted on? If so give me list you good at that. A list of all the schools that voted for it . How many were the large catholic schools? That decision was the main driver in the s__t ever being brought up. I’m not sure and I don’t know if there’s any record of that vote. But I can assure you that most Catholic schools have more in common than the average public school than we do with JC, E, etc. we have coexisted for decades and managed to keep a reasonable relationship. Again how many Catholic schools won state championships pre split? ND 4, st Charles 1, Catholic BR 1, Catholic NI 1, Opelousas Catholic 1, st Ed’s 1. I know I’m missing some but it’s irrelevant compared to JC and E. I agree, most public schools do have more in common with Catholic schools. That's why its so hard to understand why the Catholic schools refused to come to the table, compromise and come up with a better way than what we have. Instead choosing for no change and standing with JT and the rest. Some of the best wins and most heartbreaking losses for my team came playing Catholic schools. I, like many others miss that. But not enough to go back to where we were fielding the best 50 man roster we could out of the 150 boys within 30 miles of our school and having to play Curtis with their 100 man roster of the best athletes in New Orleans. That was ridiculous bull poop. And you know it. What we have now wasn't because of Catholic schools, they just got lumped in with all the others because they supported all the others instead of working with the publics for a better way.
I talked to a lot of great people from St. Charles when our girls played them in Sulphur pre spl_. They were just as bitter about the 2005 decision as we were. Felt as if it took two guaranteed titles away from their football team and it did. They understood the push from public schools for something to be done but at the same time weren't going to break ranks with the other catholic schools. They were also concerned about the possibility of JC getting pushed back into their divison post s__t because at the time they had increased the numbers to get to 3a.
I'm done talking about it. Nothing going to change because people are too busy taking sides and refuse to look from the others point of view to ever come to a compromise and a better classification system that works for everybody.
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Post by indy on Sept 19, 2019 8:19:27 GMT -6
What compromise do you want? The catholic schools sat there and watched the public pass an expanded split.
As the loreauville fan likes to point out the rules give them an advantage to take in any kid from Iberia Parish and it's fine. Well the catholic schools have always been able to take in kids form outside of the zone because not every kid can attend the catholic school. So compromise sure let us have the same rules that the public schools have. It's always been the rule for us we were kicked out because it was a problem and now we watch public schools use the same rule and it's no big deal.
How is this fair?
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Post by wshs on Sept 19, 2019 8:50:57 GMT -6
What compromise do you want? The catholic schools sat there and watched the public pass an expanded split. As the loreauville fan likes to point out the rules give them an advantage to take in any kid from Iberia Parish and it's fine. Well the catholic schools have always been able to take in kids form outside of the zone because not every kid can attend the catholic school. So compromise sure let us have the same rules that the public schools have. It's always been the rule for us we were kicked out because it was a problem and now we watch public schools use the same rule and it's no big deal. How is this fair? Hell I don't know but surely all the brilliant minds can come up with something better than we had and we now have. Thing is Loreaville may take in from other areas in Iberia parish (which is an advantage over a lot of other public schools) but they cant take in from outside the parish. ND can.
The way teams were classified pre and post sp_t suck. I see and understand your prospective as an ND fan. I agree with some of your thoughts and I don't like what we have and want it to change. But you refuse to look at things through my perspective as a small rural public school fan.
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Post by louisianafbfan on Sept 19, 2019 9:41:03 GMT -6
I’ll take Oberlin, East Beauregard, Pickering, Kinder, Central Catholic and South Beauregard. I think all 6 games will be pretty close though. We (Kinder) have a shot if we play the game like we can. Last week we had a few miscues on offense and we were very poor at tackling. We had the opportunities and were the n position to make the plays but we couldn't finish alot of plays that we should have. Hopefully this rainy weather will give us an advantage with outlr ground game. I'm just not completely comfortable yet with picking us over St. Louis based solely on last week's games but it is a new week and things can change. Don't turn the ball over and don't miss an abundance of tackles. In conditions this week...the team out of yall and STL that does those things the best will win. Be happy with a 4-5 yards and don't put the ball on the ground.
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Post by CoachBoone on Sept 19, 2019 9:59:03 GMT -6
Another thread hijacked. Imagine that!
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Sept 19, 2019 11:01:57 GMT -6
Lol the kplc game of the week is Oakdale vs Oberlin The GOTW doesn't always have to feature a couple of juggernauts. Sometimes it's just about Rivalry and competition. They seem pretty evenly matched to me. Difference to me is that Oberlin is use to winning and Oakdale hasn't had much success recently.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Sept 19, 2019 11:05:29 GMT -6
Another thread hijacked. Imagine that! Holy crap this thread is 5 pages long now. Yea now I see why.
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Post by indy on Sept 19, 2019 12:29:43 GMT -6
Another thread hijacked. Imagine that! Holy crap this thread is 5 pages long now. Yea now I see why. 5 pages because it’s such an exciting district.
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Post by bigred on Sept 19, 2019 12:51:32 GMT -6
Going with Oakdale. SHVP had gave Oberlin fits down to the 4th quarter
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