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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 10:41:03 GMT -6
You still show an exceptional amount of ignorance. You may want to mow your own lawn young man. Bc if you open up the flood gates, how many schools right now had sub varsity kids playing JV? Why do you guys think it was agreed upon by both public and private to get rid of this rule?
Youve now wasted 30 seconds of my life ill never get back. Go polish your helmet
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Post by indy on May 13, 2016 10:50:39 GMT -6
You still show an exceptional amount of ignorance. You may want to mow your own lawn young man. Bc if you open up the flood gates, how many schools right now had sub varsity kids playing JV? Why do you guys think it was agreed upon by both public and private to get rid of this rule? Youve now wasted 30 seconds of my life ill never get back. Go polish your helmet Reading this leads me to believe you are wasting your own time., I like STM but I do agree about the chrome lids! Lol
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Post by pioneerforlife on May 14, 2016 1:52:46 GMT -6
But this is what you get. "Once again we have ANOTHER PUBLIC school leading the way as a CHEATER:" We are all guilty, including myself, of taking stores and using them to benifit our cause. We all have reason why we want the split and why we don't. Can not wait for June 8th to come then everyone does what they think is best for their program. You would think that with all the success yall have had that yall would want both privates and publics in one bracket to crown a true championship.
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Post by pioneerforlife on May 14, 2016 1:55:21 GMT -6
He is legal the way the kids from Wossman and Carroll can go to West Monroe Once the split is complete with a the Cooperative in place, there will no longer be a sit out rule and ANY athlete from ANY public school that is not part of the Cooperative, will be allowed to transfer and the family will NOT have to be displaced from their home by a high school bona fide move rule. Then we will hear some whining. Cant wait for that to happen cant wait.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 16, 2016 11:05:17 GMT -6
He is legal the way the kids from Wossman and Carroll can go to West Monroe Once the split is complete with a the Cooperative in place, there will no longer be a sit out rule and ANY athlete from ANY public school that is not part of the Cooperative, will be allowed to transfer and the family will NOT have to be displaced from their home by a high school bona fide move rule. Then we will hear some whining. Do you know if the Cooperative is in place now to be ready this year, or is this still another year or 2 away? I've heard that it's ready June 9th for this year and that it will be at least 1-2 years before it's ready.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 13:56:22 GMT -6
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Post by iknownuthing on Aug 3, 2016 8:13:13 GMT -6
I saw where someone stated this in the debate about the split. It is very telling. If you believe this, then you are simply not capable of problem solving. We really need people who can see past their bias to actually solve this issue. Here is one idea: establish the performance committee and have the known powerhouses or whoever has the athlete/student population ratio imbalance (this needs to be defined) and make them account for every student athlete on the team. When did they enroll in school, how much is the tuition charged?, who pays it? Is it paid monthly or lump sum? Standard proof of legit move, etc. on the whole team annually. Make coaches responsible for violations (like NCAA show cause), treat public and private the same since we know these issues are not one sided. Then allow the committee to have leeway to punish. Add a clause in the bylaws that member schools agree to be subject to the decisions of the committee. That will reduce the court challenges since it is agreed upon as a condition of membership. Just some ideas... LHSAA has rules that they cannot enforce. Whether it is good idea or bad idea how will you get LHSAA to enforce. Most issue people have there are rules in LHSAA to prevent just not enforced. It is not that they cannot enforce them, is that they have chosen in the past NOT to enforce them. Looking the other way for W. Monroe and others.
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Post by iknownuthing on Aug 3, 2016 8:37:03 GMT -6
One thing that was mentioned to both sides was 1-yr ineligibility regardless of move. Public school coaches agreed with the principals if this was the case we most likely wouldn't have a split. If you are not in the attendance zone of either public or private you must sit for one calendar year no matter what. It needs to be proposed, we would agree to that. I have a feeling basketball schools wouldn't like it though If everyone TRULY wants to do away with a split, and TRULY wants kids at their school for the right reasons, NOT ATHLETICS, here is a simple rule that will solve the entire issue. If you transfer to a school or its feeder schools after the 5th grade, from another member school within a 50 mile radius, you are ineligible for ALL levels of play, your first 2 years in high school. Done, simple, over. Applies the same to all I don't think so. There are very few transfers of game changer athletes in the private school sector. You do have a story of one or two every now and then, but it is not a problem. I can point to more public school to public school transfers in the JR year than I can public school to private school. MOstly, after your sopre year at public school, you are way behind academically. Now some of the less academic private schools might have an advantage. I have seen kids come into STM in their JR year only to leave after 6 weeks because they could not do the work or would not adapt to the discipline required. And that is from both other private schools and public schools. I don't think Rummel, Jesuit, STM, St. Pauls, Shaw, Teurlings, De La Salle or St. Aug get very many successful transfers the last two years of any kids schooling. (outside of Katrina, STM did pick up a Kicker and running back from a couple of NOLA schools, funny thing the coaches at those schools did not recognize the talent they had in hand and both kids played college ball after graduating from STM). Teurlings tried to help a kid and after spending a tremendous amount of time $$$ and manpower on getting the attitude and education up to standard, Breaux Bridge Principal threw a fit and forced the kid back to BB if he wanted to play sports.
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Post by iknownuthing on Aug 3, 2016 8:42:09 GMT -6
Happens all the time. As soon as children begin falling by the wayside athletically from their classmates, parents begin moving. If a kid moves for "other reasons" like you say, then that could be evaluated in the hardship. Bottom line is actually, the great minority move for "other reasons". Parents know the loopholes, so fix them. Simple. Having an early date to move in order not to be penalized, forces a parent to make a decision. You do realize that for economic development at most rural schools this would be a disaster. Cities like St. Martinville have lost generation of families that parents have left because of the failed school system. So If I want to go to STM, I am going to move away from ST. Martin parish once my kid is born and into the private school zone. Or I am going to move to Texas if at all possible where there is less animosity and better public schools. What you are trying to do is take away the parental choice pure and simple and force kids into schools. This goes back to following the money. Force all kids to go to the local private school so that they can count them and get the $$$$.
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Post by iknownuthing on Aug 3, 2016 8:46:48 GMT -6
Same as why 1A schools play 4A schools during regular season. Ok you got me during the non district schedule, but during district all schools compete against each other. For example district 3-2A: Many, Bunkie, Oakdale, Rosepine, & Pickering are all "non-select" while Menard a "select" competes for the same district champion and the players are all able to be selected to the all district team. All I'm asking is if they can compete against each other in district why not the playoffs? It is my contention that the ONLY reason that there are still districts is to select an ALL State team. There is no other reason. Districts have little to NO say in making the playoffs except that a champion is automatic. With the Split, it really does not matter because almost EVERYONE goes. To make the All STATE team you have to be 1st Team all district, that is the ONLY use for districts. There is no district evaluation in the Power rating formula and no other benefit. Time for districts to go away for ever.
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Post by iknownuthing on Aug 3, 2016 8:58:00 GMT -6
But this is what you get. "Once again we have ANOTHER PUBLIC school leading the way as a CHEATER:" We are all guilty, including myself, of taking stores and using them to benifit our cause. We all have reason why we want the split and why we don't. Can not wait for June 8th to come then everyone does what they think is best for their program. First it was the Baton Rouge paper publishing a statement from LHSAA. Second, there was no mention of it in the Lafayette paper until a week after it appeared in the Advocate. Thirdly, it was Lafayette High, if it had been STM, it would have been in the Lafayette paper, on the front page above the fold with a picture of the Coach and possibly the player if they could find it accompanied with a biased article about how they cheat along with a liturgy of past offenses down to the foundation of the school.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 13:07:16 GMT -6
But this is what you get. "Once again we have ANOTHER PUBLIC school leading the way as a CHEATER:" We are all guilty, including myself, of taking stores and using them to benifit our cause. We all have reason why we want the split and why we don't. Can not wait for June 8th to come then everyone does what they think is best for their program. First it was the Baton Rouge paper publishing a statement from LHSAA. Second, there was no mention of it in the Lafayette paper until a week after it appeared in the Advocate. Thirdly, it was Lafayette High, if it had been STM, it would have been in the Lafayette paper, on the front page above the fold with a picture of the Coach and possibly the player if they could find it accompanied with a biased article about how they cheat along with a liturgy of past offenses down to the foundation of the school. www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/sports/high_schools/article_96366ff5-c70b-5828-83b5-cb428c551a14.html
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