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Post by cenlapride on Apr 13, 2021 9:40:00 GMT -6
Anyone hear if the Lena head coaching position has been filled ?
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Post by kamala on Apr 13, 2021 9:48:09 GMT -6
The only attraction there is the money.
You aren't going to win no matter how much work you put in or how many good assistants you hire.
It's sad to say, but it's true.
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Post by whistler on Apr 13, 2021 10:00:32 GMT -6
You show me a bad football team, I'll show you a bad administrator.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 10:05:19 GMT -6
What are the main issues here?
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Post by kamala on Apr 13, 2021 10:11:16 GMT -6
You show me a bad football team, I'll show you a bad administrator. Not valid.
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Post by whistler on Apr 13, 2021 16:33:41 GMT -6
You show me a bad football team, I'll show you a bad administrator. Not valid. There are zero places in Louisiana where they have a supportive principal/superintendent/athletic director AND a bad football team. It doesn't exist. I defy you or anyone else to show me a single example of a place where the AD, Principal and Superintendent are/were all football coaches and they have a bad football team. Go ahead, I'll wait.
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Post by ceniapride on Apr 13, 2021 18:39:13 GMT -6
There are zero places in Louisiana where they have a supportive principal/superintendent/athletic director AND a bad football team. It doesn't exist. I defy you or anyone else to show me a single example of a place where the AD, Principal and Superintendent are/were all football coaches and they have a bad football team. Go ahead, I'll wait. 100% truth. No admin there for many years
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Post by kamala on Apr 13, 2021 23:12:19 GMT -6
You could have Bear Bryant as Principal, Nick Saban as head coach and AD, and Teddy Roosevelt as the Supt.... and you are still going 3-7 at best.
Zero football mentality, motivation, or interest.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Apr 14, 2021 1:47:34 GMT -6
You could have Bear Bryant as Principal, Nick Saban as head coach and AD, and Teddy Roosevelt as the Supt.... and you are still going 3-7 at best. Zero football mentality, motivation, or interest. just say it, it’s the kids’ fault
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Post by ceniapride on Apr 14, 2021 6:00:46 GMT -6
You could have Bear Bryant as Principal, Nick Saban as head coach and AD, and Teddy Roosevelt as the Supt.... and you are still going 3-7 at best. Zero football mentality, motivation, or interest. just say it, it’s the kids’ fault For real. Throw the kids under the bus rather than the years of POS admin the schools had
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 14, 2021 6:48:44 GMT -6
You could have Bear Bryant as Principal, Nick Saban as head coach and AD, and Teddy Roosevelt as the Supt.... and you are still going 3-7 at best. Zero football mentality, motivation, or interest. So you think that even if there are good coaches, an awesome and supportive admin and AD that they would still lose? If you have all of the things in place to put players in the best position possible to be successful how would you have zero football mentality, motivation or interest? Sure, I would believe that in the beginning any good coach is going to struggle as he is building a program, but I also believe that hard work and building a positive culture will eventually pay off... It will build football mentality, it will motivate players and interest. Right?
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Post by kamala on Apr 14, 2021 6:49:22 GMT -6
Not downing the kids at all. There's just no culture there for football.
It's a very rural school. Country kids that would rather hunt, fish, ride around in the trucks and hang out than play football. Not that there's anything wrong with any of those things. It's just not a place where football is going to be a priority with the community to the point that they are highly competitive.
Rapides has open enrollment, and no kid with football talent is going to choose to go there. And any kid that HAS football talent is going to go to ASH or Tioga or Peabody. They are pretty competitive in basketball most years, and for a little while in the late 90's were competitive in softball, but football has only had a couple of winning seasons...maybe 3...in the history of the school. Same with baseball.
Stop with the whole "blame it on the kids" whining mess. I'm not blaming anyone. It's just a culture thing that isn't going to change, no matter who is running the show.
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Post by markanderson on Apr 14, 2021 11:16:43 GMT -6
There are zero places in Louisiana where they have a supportive principal/superintendent/athletic director AND a bad football team. It doesn't exist. I defy you or anyone else to show me a single example of a place where the AD, Principal and Superintendent are/were all football coaches and they have a bad football team. Go ahead, I'll wait. Bossier High School
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 15, 2021 7:02:35 GMT -6
There are zero places in Louisiana where they have a supportive principal/superintendent/athletic director AND a bad football team. It doesn't exist. I defy you or anyone else to show me a single example of a place where the AD, Principal and Superintendent are/were all football coaches and they have a bad football team. Go ahead, I'll wait. Bossier High School
Bossier went 7-4 in 2019 and were number 18 in the power rankings. And, they have had success with past teams. Now, for all you researchers out there, I understand that they haven't won a whole lot recently, but the coaching staff there is doing the best they can with virtually no one on the football team. The Principal there I hear is a great guy too...
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Post by georgejetson on Apr 15, 2021 7:24:46 GMT -6
Bossier went 7-4 in 2019 and were number 18 in the power rankings. And, they have had success with past teams. Now, for all you researchers out there, I understand that they haven't won a whole lot recently, but the coaching staff there is doing the best they can with virtually no one on the football team. The Principal there I hear is a great guy too... Y’all just arguing to argue. Bossier is trash
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Post by georgejetson on Apr 15, 2021 7:25:43 GMT -6
You could have Bear Bryant as Principal, Nick Saban as head coach and AD, and Teddy Roosevelt as the Supt.... and you are still going 3-7 at best. Zero football mentality, motivation, or interest. just say it, it’s the kids’ fault I mean ... it may sound harsh but if a kid isn’t talented it is technically his fault
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Post by walkingturtles on Apr 15, 2021 8:07:11 GMT -6
Northwood Lena has a ton of potential. With a competitive Principal and AD you can have some success. You just have to identify what is considered success. There are several factors right now that benefit Northwood.
They have a good basketball program and routinely have several great athletes. You have to get them to play football.
They have a lot of size, I mean a lot of size.
Being that it is a K-12 school, you need to be developing kids within your system as early as elementary school. 6/7 should start weights. Goal should be about 6-8 kids per grade level completely bought in.
No reason Northwood can not hover around .500 every year and every now and then make the 2nd round.
Community is poor, not much money out there aside from maybe tax revenue from plants.
Current superintendent is a Northwood alum, gotta play that up.
And yes, the salary will be great for you and assistant coaches. Should be able to get competent people out there.
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Post by blutoblutarsky on Apr 15, 2021 14:02:24 GMT -6
Northwood Lena has a ton of potential. With a competitive Principal and AD you can have some success. You just have to identify what is considered success. There are several factors right now that benefit Northwood. They have a good basketball program and routinely have several great athletes. You have to get them to play football. They have a lot of size, I mean a lot of size. Being that it is a K-12 school, you need to be developing kids within your system as early as elementary school. 6/7 should start weights. Goal should be about 6-8 kids per grade level completely bought in. No reason Northwood can not hover around .500 every year and every now and then make the 2nd round. Community is poor, not much money out there aside from maybe tax revenue from plants. Current superintendent is a Northwood alum, gotta play that up. And yes, the salary will be great for you and assistant coaches. Should be able to get competent people out there. There's a huge difference between having a lot of size and having a team full of 5'9", 320 lb Bubbas who are exhausted at halftime and need mama to go get their inhaler out of their truck for them. Those basketball kids are going to play basketball. That's it. Northwood has rarely had their basketball studs on the football field. Money is certainly an issue. Unless the school board kicks in a special fund to get things going the money won't be there. There is not a parent-based source of revenue within that community. The bottom line always has been and always will be that there simply isn't much interest in football at that school. Football falls in the middle of deer season and deer season will win that battle everytime in Flatwoods. It would require summer workouts which would interfere with work for a lot those boys. And the parents don't necessarily care if Junior plays or not. It's a nice school with a nice campus in a nice little community but football is never going win more than 20 games every 5 years. Sometimes they won't win 20 in 10 years.
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Post by walkingturtles on Apr 15, 2021 18:00:47 GMT -6
I know it’s a different sport but Basketball Head job there has come open as well.
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Post by walkingturtles on Apr 15, 2021 18:18:08 GMT -6
Northwood Lena has a ton of potential. With a competitive Principal and AD you can have some success. You just have to identify what is considered success. There are several factors right now that benefit Northwood. They have a good basketball program and routinely have several great athletes. You have to get them to play football. They have a lot of size, I mean a lot of size. Being that it is a K-12 school, you need to be developing kids within your system as early as elementary school. 6/7 should start weights. Goal should be about 6-8 kids per grade level completely bought in. No reason Northwood can not hover around .500 every year and every now and then make the 2nd round. Community is poor, not much money out there aside from maybe tax revenue from plants. Current superintendent is a Northwood alum, gotta play that up. And yes, the salary will be great for you and assistant coaches. Should be able to get competent people out there. There's a huge difference between having a lot of size and having a team full of 5'9", 320 lb Bubbas who are exhausted at halftime and need mama to go get their inhaler out of their truck for them. Those basketball kids are going to play basketball. That's it. Northwood has rarely had their basketball studs on the football field. Money is certainly an issue. Unless the school board kicks in a special fund to get things going the money won't be there. There is not a parent-based source of revenue within that community. The bottom line always has been and always will be that there simply isn't much interest in football at that school. Football falls in the middle of deer season and deer season will win that battle everytime in Flatwoods. It would require summer workouts which would interfere with work for a lot those boys. And the parents don't necessarily care if Junior plays or not. It's a nice school with a nice campus in a nice little community but football is never going win more than 20 games every 5 years. Sometimes they won't win 20 in 10 years. Rapides gets out at 2:30pm. You get a last period as athletic PE, which starts about 1:30ish. You can call practice everyday at 3:30/4 and kids can get to work and get out of there. You can do weights before school, most country kids can drive, and a coach with a CDL can grab a bus and pick kids up and find a way to make it work. It would take extraordinary effort but you could make it a viable program in some fashion. That’s just spitballing. In the summer focus solely on weights and conditioning early before most kids go to work, be flexible and offer multiple times.
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Post by blutoblutarsky on Apr 16, 2021 13:08:15 GMT -6
I don't know what time Northwood gets out but not every Rapides school gets out at 2:30. They all have staggered times.
As for a coach grabbing a bus and picking kids up for early morning workouts I'd have to say good luck hiring a staff when they find out that one or two days a week they have to get on a bus at 5:30 in the morning to pick kids up for morning workouts and then take them home after practice. Some of the kids at that school live 10 or more miles away.
The first time a coach makes an early morning round and comes back with an empty bus, you'll probably have to start looking for new coaches.
It's a unique situation out there and over the last 30 years they've never really come close to getting things going in football.
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Post by TheFireman89 on Apr 16, 2021 13:34:24 GMT -6
They had that one year where they went 9-1 and won the district and then got bounced in the first round. Only success on any level football has had at Northwood. Seem to be in a similar boat as Pine Prairie, meaning football will just never be consistently successful there
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Post by cvwildcatfan on Apr 16, 2021 18:51:58 GMT -6
Bossier went 7-4 in 2019 and were number 18 in the power rankings. And, they have had success with past teams. Now, for all you researchers out there, I understand that they haven't won a whole lot recently, but the coaching staff there is doing the best they can with virtually no one on the football team. The Principal there I hear is a great guy too... Bossier loses too many football kids to Parkway and Airline. They do have one of the best basketball programs in the state though. Bossier's success in 2019 was the first decent season they had in years, the drop from 4a to 3a helped the football team more than any other sport.
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Post by kamala on Apr 19, 2021 9:21:09 GMT -6
Bossier went 7-4 in 2019 and were number 18 in the power rankings. And, they have had success with past teams. Now, for all you researchers out there, I understand that they haven't won a whole lot recently, but the coaching staff there is doing the best they can with virtually no one on the football team. The Principal there I hear is a great guy too... Bossier loses too many football kids to Parkway and Airline. They do have one of the best basketball programs in the state though. Bossier's success in 2019 was the first decent season they had in years, the drop from 4a to 3a helped the football team more than any other sport. Their success in 2019 was mainly due to the two track speedsters that scored the majority of their points and also patrolled the secondary for them. They both graduated and in 2020 , Bossier went back to being pedestrian.
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Post by kennypowers on Apr 19, 2021 19:05:38 GMT -6
Well, so what’s the pecking order here? Any names being thrown around?
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Post by ceniapride on Apr 20, 2021 12:20:34 GMT -6
Well, so what’s the pecking order here? Any names being thrown around? Not hardly. Now the Head Basketball job is open as well. Place is a shame of a mess
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Post by coachtrent on Apr 20, 2021 12:50:31 GMT -6
Seemed like a great coach to me, kids played extremely hard against us in the quarters, hard to replace a coach to that gets to the TOP28.
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Post by Southplaq on Apr 25, 2021 7:52:29 GMT -6
There are zero places in Louisiana where they have a supportive principal/superintendent/athletic director AND a bad football team. It doesn't exist. I defy you or anyone else to show me a single example of a place where the AD, Principal and Superintendent are/were all football coaches and they have a bad football team. Go ahead, I'll wait. Fisher
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Post by cajunbulldawg on Apr 27, 2021 9:44:22 GMT -6
Anyone heard anything?
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Post by TheFireman89 on May 2, 2021 13:25:15 GMT -6
Northwood-Lena has hired Holy Savior Menard head boys basketball coach Brian Terwilliger to the same position. He will be officially announced tomorrow along with the yet to be named new football coach.
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