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Post by New Organization on Mar 16, 2016 14:56:42 GMT -6
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Post by piratefan on Mar 16, 2016 14:58:27 GMT -6
That was me that posted that. I have no idea why it came up as a guest post with that name.
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Post by Raven on Mar 16, 2016 15:21:34 GMT -6
$15,000 seems a bit steep, even for a one-time fee to join. What are the annual dues for the LHSAA?
If they are not going to have any annual dues, where will their operating budget come from?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 18:00:41 GMT -6
Wow, after reading that I see NO way the legislature gets anything passed and signed by
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Post by btown on Mar 16, 2016 20:34:28 GMT -6
“There is a lot of aggravation with the LHSAA,” said Talbot.
They cannot even run the state and the want to get into LHSAA. WOW! Think they need to spend all their time on the budget. They were about to do away with TOPS, but LHSAA is on their agenda. "Come on man".
As for as the new Association, Schools need to do what they think is best for them. Just remember it will not be up to individual public schools, that will be a School Board Decision.
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Post by gentlemanjack on Mar 17, 2016 7:37:07 GMT -6
Nothing goes away just by sweeping under a rug or running away from problems. Buying a new car doesn't mean you won't have a flat or guarantee you won't have mechanical issues. Without a doubt the LHSAA has issues, but any and every organization new and old will have problems. Just look at the federal government. The problem I see has more to do with a lack of good leadership top down, and those in a leadership position forgetting the mission of the organization. Having stated this I don't see anything in the articles of the new cooperative that will eventually keep them from having the same problems that the LHSAA today faces.
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Post by me3 on Mar 17, 2016 8:12:14 GMT -6
$15,000 seems a bit steep, even for a one-time fee to join. What are the annual dues for the LHSAA? If they are not going to have any annual dues, where will their operating budget come from? 9.1.1 Membership dues (applies to all schools) CLASS DUES 5A $1050 4A $900 3A $750 2A $600 1A $450 B $375 C $300 9.1.2 Football Playoff Games (bi-district through semi-finals): 10 percent of gross ticket receipts before payment of officials’ fees and other deductions to be paid within 30 calendar days of the event. 9.1.3 Basketball Playoffs (bi-district through quarterfinals): 5 percent of gross ticket receipts before payment of officials’ fees and other deductions to be paid within 30 calendar days of the event. 9.1.4 Soccer Playoffs (bi-district through finals): 5 percent of gross ticket receipts before payment of officials’ fees and other deductions to be paid within 30 calendar days of the event. 9.1.5 Entry Fees for Other State Championship Events (Fees are payable by school check to the LHSAA) SPORT FEE PAID Bowling $30 per team State Playoffs Cross Country $10 per person State Meet Golf (Boys) $10 per person Regional Tournament Golf (Girls) $10 per person Regional Tournament Gymnastics $15 per person State Meet Soccer $26 per team Bi-district Round Swimming $15 per person State Meet Tennis $15 per person Regional Meet Wrestling $15 per person State Tournament 9.2 OTHER FINANCES 9.2.1 Building Dues: A new school joining the Association shall be required to pay $1,500 in building dues. Building dues are due September 1 and are delinquent after November 1. Schools failing to pay building fund dues by this date shall pay a ten percent penalty. *A school may pay its dues in one payment or annually over a three-year period. 9.2.2 LHSAA/
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Post by iknownuthing on Mar 17, 2016 9:34:13 GMT -6
I believe the LHSAA Membership dues are paid annual because if you fail to pay your dues by a certain date you will incur a penalty, and if you fail to pay you are no longer eligible for championship series in any sport.
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Post by pinion on Mar 17, 2016 11:11:29 GMT -6
I like the idea. I do not believe the LHSAA is interesting in doing anything for private schools and only wants money they generate.
If a new organization is formed, the format from Mr.Rainwater looks to be a decent enough plan. It's a little steep coming in, but other than that, I think it will work. As for generating money, there are lots of avenues for that. Sell advertising for practically everything. I'm sure there'll be a lot of negativity from the pro-split bunch, which is fine. They're entitled to their opinion.
but I do have to wonder why those that wanted SO BAD to have the private schools put in their own "division" are suddenly so worried about what the private schools are doing. I mean, when I got divorced years ago, I didn't worry about what my X was doing. And I certainly didn't try to give her advice on what she needed to be doing.
For people that want nothing to do with private schools, the pro-split folks are terribly concerned about where private schools go from here.
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Post by btown on Mar 17, 2016 11:28:22 GMT -6
I like the idea. I do not believe the LHSAA is interesting in doing anything for private schools and only wants money they generate. If a new organization is formed, the format from Mr.Rainwater looks to be a decent enough plan. It's a little steep coming in, but other than that, I think it will work. As for generating money, there are lots of avenues for that. Sell advertising for practically everything. I'm sure there'll be a lot of negativity from the pro-split bunch, which is fine. They're entitled to their opinion. but I do have to wonder why those that wanted SO BAD to have the private schools put in their own "division" are suddenly so worried about what the private schools are doing. I mean, when I got divorced years ago, I didn't worry about what my X was doing. And I certainly didn't try to give her advice on what she needed to be doing. For people that want nothing to do with private schools, the pro-split folks are terribly concerned about where private schools go from here. I support the LHSAA and I have no problem with anyone starting a new organization. That is what what makes our country great, if your do not like what is going own you always have the freedom to go in a different direction. So I support other people decision and respect those decisions, do not have to agree with them and will not knock there decision unless they come after me. What I have a problem with is big government and that is what is happening with politicians want to get involve in what a organization is doing. It is none other their business. People have a right to start a new organzation if they do like the one they are in. Our politicians need to worry about Upper Education, TOPS, Hospitals and so on, NOT THE LHSAA.
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Post by Raven on Mar 17, 2016 11:39:50 GMT -6
I like the idea. I do not believe the LHSAA is interesting in doing anything for private schools and only wants money they generate. If a new organization is formed, the format from Mr.Rainwater looks to be a decent enough plan. It's a little steep coming in, but other than that, I think it will work. As for generating money, there are lots of avenues for that. Sell advertising for practically everything. I'm sure there'll be a lot of negativity from the pro-split bunch, which is fine. They're entitled to their opinion. but I do have to wonder why those that wanted SO BAD to have the private schools put in their own "division" are suddenly so worried about what the private schools are doing. I mean, when I got divorced years ago, I didn't worry about what my X was doing. And I certainly didn't try to give her advice on what she needed to be doing. For people that want nothing to do with private schools, the pro-split folks are terribly concerned about where private schools go from here. I support the LHSAA and I have no problem with anyone starting a new organization. That is what what makes our country great, if your do not like what is going own you always have the freedom to go in a different direction. So I support other people decision and respect those decisions, do not have to agree with them and will not knock there decision unless they come after me. What I have a problem with is big government and that is what is happening with politicians want to get involve in what a organization is doing. It is none other their business. People have a right to start a new organzation if they do like the one they are in. Our politicians need to worry about Upper Education, TOPS, Hospitals and so on, NOT THE LHSAA. While I agree the state has bigger problems than the LHSAA, one could make the argument that they are being discriminatory in their separation of schools for playoff purposes. Discrimination on the basis of religion in the case of the Catholic schools, as well as many of the other faith-based schools around the state. Not saying that is the direction they will take, but it is within the realm of possibility.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 11:53:43 GMT -6
I like the idea. I do not believe the LHSAA is interesting in doing anything for private schools and only wants money they generate. If a new organization is formed, the format from Mr.Rainwater looks to be a decent enough plan. It's a little steep coming in, but other than that, I think it will work. As for generating money, there are lots of avenues for that. Sell advertising for practically everything. I'm sure there'll be a lot of negativity from the pro-split bunch, which is fine. They're entitled to their opinion. but I do have to wonder why those that wanted SO BAD to have the private schools put in their own "division" are suddenly so worried about what the private schools are doing. I mean, when I got divorced years ago, I didn't worry about what my X was doing. And I certainly didn't try to give her advice on what she needed to be doing. For people that want nothing to do with private schools, the pro-split folks are terribly concerned about where private schools go from here. I support the LHSAA and I have no problem with anyone starting a new organization. That is what what makes our country great, if your do not like what is going own you always have the freedom to go in a different direction. So I support other people decision and respect those decisions, do not have to agree with them and will not knock there decision unless they come after me. What I have a problem with is big government and that is what is happening with politicians want to get involve in what a organization is doing. It is none other their business. People have a right to start a new organzation if they do like the one they are in. Our politicians need to worry about Upper Education, TOPS, Hospitals and so on, NOT THE LHSAA. While I agree with you about should, anyone who has been around the LHSAA and Louisiana in general should have known that the legislature WOULD get involved. Not one person who supports the split does so for "level playing field" or "fair" reasons. It was done so because a few schools used their location and LHSAA rules to benefit athletics. As a result of voting to split, the LHSAA has opened itself up to legislative intervention. The proposed legislation does not tell the LHSAA how to operate, but does tell schools under its purview what type of extracurricular associations it can/cannot be a part of. Which is within the capability of the body. Whether it is right or not is not relevant to the issue of exposure. That was done by adults who want trophies not opportunity to compete for trophies. i think the new organization will be better for those who want to compete, and if issues arise, the issue will be felt with instead of handed off. No leadership in the LHSAA, and I am disappointed that it has allowed this to happen.
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Post by gentlemanjac on Mar 17, 2016 12:43:31 GMT -6
I support the LHSAA and I have no problem with anyone starting a new organization. That is what what makes our country great, if your do not like what is going own you always have the freedom to go in a different direction. So I support other people decision and respect those decisions, do not have to agree with them and will not knock there decision unless they come after me. What I have a problem with is big government and that is what is happening with politicians want to get involve in what a organization is doing. It is none other their business. People have a right to start a new organzation if they do like the one they are in. Our politicians need to worry about Upper Education, TOPS, Hospitals and so on, NOT THE LHSAA. While I agree the state has bigger problems than the LHSAA, one could make the argument that they are being discriminatory in their separation of schools for playoff purposes. Discrimination on the basis of religion in the case of the Catholic schools, as well as many of the other faith-based schools around the state. Not saying that is the direction they will take, but it is within the realm of possibility. It is in the realm of possibility that despite a billion dollar deficit they will still spend more and continue to add taxes. Oh wait that is what they have done. Furthermore, the LHSAA did not discriminate based on religion. I just see this as a complete failure on both the LHSAA from many years of very poor leadership and those who potentially wish to form a new group (who if you think about it also played a part in the failure of the LHSAA) and try to sell either as they are doing this for the betterment of the kids when in actuality it goes against what should be taught to our youth. So what gives so many a fuzzy warm feeling that down the line this too won't end up like what we presently have? Is it just because it is new? Is it just because now the roles of majority are reversed per se' knowing full and well that most public institutions will not be allowed to join the new organization? Lest not fool ourselves either in realizing this Rainwater person was the chief of staff for the worst governor in this state's history and he is the new leader.
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Post by iknownuthing on Mar 17, 2016 14:21:45 GMT -6
I support the LHSAA and I have no problem with anyone starting a new organization. That is what what makes our country great, if your do not like what is going own you always have the freedom to go in a different direction. So I support other people decision and respect those decisions, do not have to agree with them and will not knock there decision unless they come after me. What I have a problem with is big government and that is what is happening with politicians want to get involve in what a organization is doing. It is none other their business. People have a right to start a new organzation if they do like the one they are in. Our politicians need to worry about Upper Education, TOPS, Hospitals and so on, NOT THE LHSAA. While I agree the state has bigger problems than the LHSAA, one could make the argument that they are being discriminatory in their separation of schools for playoff purposes. Discrimination on the basis of religion in the case of the Catholic schools, as well as many of the other faith-based schools around the state. Not saying that is the direction they will take, but it is within the realm of possibility. my problem with that mindset is that the LHSAA existed as a QUASI-Government agency until a judge gave them their independence from government over site. The only private organization that has jurisdiction and long term contracts over public schools that does not have to BID their contracts. pay-rates etc..
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Post by Raven on Mar 17, 2016 14:31:23 GMT -6
While I agree the state has bigger problems than the LHSAA, one could make the argument that they are being discriminatory in their separation of schools for playoff purposes. Discrimination on the basis of religion in the case of the Catholic schools, as well as many of the other faith-based schools around the state. Not saying that is the direction they will take, but it is within the realm of possibility. Furthermore, the LHSAA did not discriminate based on religion. They may not have done so with intent. However, the end result of the split playoff system, which affects mostly private, Catholic schools can definitely be viewed as religious discrimination.
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Post by gentlemanjack on Mar 17, 2016 15:04:42 GMT -6
The determining basis was not one of any particular religion or faith. And as a private organization, not a government or so called quasi entity despite one's opinion, but the determining ruling of the court, it was ruled upon by the the total members. Just because those who did not achieve their goal with the outcome of the member vote may be of a majority of schools who are non-secular does not correlate into discrimination based on secularism.
I do not like the split, but to think that by the creation of a new organization we have created the panacea for all that ills the LHSAA is utter stupidity. But for those adults who many had a hand in the creation of this mess I can see why they would want to jump ship for the proverbial greener grass than to correct the wrongs that presently exist. So before any of you continue to bash those in favor of the split and yet run in favor of this new organization remember that when pointing a finger there's more pointing back at you. And in this case it would be a perfect pot/kettle scenario.
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Post by Raven on Mar 17, 2016 15:33:31 GMT -6
The determining basis was not one of any particular religion or faith. And as a private organization, not a government or so called quasi entity despite one's opinion, but the determining ruling of the court, it was ruled upon by the the total members. Just because those who did not achieve their goal with the outcome of the member vote may be of a majority of schools who are non-secular does not correlate into discrimination based on secularism. I do not like the split, but to think that by the creation of a new organization we have created the panacea for all that ills the LHSAA is utter stupidity. But for those adults who many had a hand in the creation of this mess I can see why they would want to jump ship for the proverbial greener grass than to correct the wrongs that presently exist. So before any of you continue to bash those in favor of the split and yet run in favor of this new organization remember that when pointing a finger there's more pointing back at you. And in this case it would be a perfect pot/kettle scenario. Even private entities, if they want to adhere to non-discriminatory practices, cannot exclude or segregate based on religion. While I agree that it was not the intent of the LHSAA to do so, intent does not always equal result. I am in no way condoning the creation of a new league or association. I am in favor of all schools competing together in the same league. However, there are many pro-split supporters (not all, but a few vocal ones) that want absolutely nothing to do with private/magnet/lab/charter schools. Until and unless that mindset gets changed, there will be no hope for select schools in the current LHSAA.
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Post by gentlemanjack on Mar 17, 2016 15:51:01 GMT -6
The determining basis was not one of any particular religion or faith. And as a private organization, not a government or so called quasi entity despite one's opinion, but the determining ruling of the court, it was ruled upon by the the total members. Just because those who did not achieve their goal with the outcome of the member vote may be of a majority of schools who are non-secular does not correlate into discrimination based on secularism. I do not like the split, but to think that by the creation of a new organization we have created the panacea for all that ills the LHSAA is utter stupidity. But for those adults who many had a hand in the creation of this mess I can see why they would want to jump ship for the proverbial greener grass than to correct the wrongs that presently exist. So before any of you continue to bash those in favor of the split and yet run in favor of this new organization remember that when pointing a finger there's more pointing back at you. And in this case it would be a perfect pot/kettle scenario. Even private entities, if they want to adhere to non-discriminatory practices, cannot exclude or segregate based on religion. While I agree that it was not the intent of the LHSAA to do so, intent does not always equal result. I am in no way condoning the creation of a new league or association. I am in favor of all schools competing together in the same league. However, there are many pro-split supporters (not all, but a few vocal ones) that want absolutely nothing to do with private/magnet/lab/charter schools. Until and unless that mindset gets changed, there will be no hope for select schools in the current LHSAA. Again the basis of separation was not that of religion or creed. Also, I am not excluding the principals who make up the membership from my statement of poor leadership within the LHSAA. If anything as you correctly describe are in many ways the very problem. With that I should also include many of their respective supervisors whether it be a chancellor or superintendent, because we all know what flows down stream.
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Post by Raven on Mar 17, 2016 16:17:43 GMT -6
Even private entities, if they want to adhere to non-discriminatory practices, cannot exclude or segregate based on religion. While I agree that it was not the intent of the LHSAA to do so, intent does not always equal result. I am in no way condoning the creation of a new league or association. I am in favor of all schools competing together in the same league. However, there are many pro-split supporters (not all, but a few vocal ones) that want absolutely nothing to do with private/magnet/lab/charter schools. Until and unless that mindset gets changed, there will be no hope for select schools in the current LHSAA. Again the basis of separation was not that of religion or creed. Also, I am not excluding the principals who make up the membership from my statement of poor leadership within the LHSAA. If anything as you correctly describe are in many ways the very problem. With that I should also include many of their respective supervisors whether it be a chancellor or superintendent, because we all know what flows down stream. I agree that the basis for the separation was not religion, but the effect or outcome of the separation can be viewed as religious bias. While the basis for the split was the perceived advantage of select schools, the end result of the split is that you have religious, faith-based, entities that have been separated from that main body and are not currently allowed to compete in the regular or secular playoffs.
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Post by gentlemanjack on Mar 18, 2016 6:06:47 GMT -6
Raven - let's say that hypothetically there was no split as we know it today to be called such. For we forget we've had a split now for decades but the basis for was set solely on enrollment. And in this we find out that all selective enrollment institutions coincidentally fit into the ranks of 2A. Would you then make your argument that it was discriminatory towards faith based schools when in essence it was not is it today.
I agree with you in that there was a misconception towards all private/parochial/magnet schools, when in reality the same sort of misconception has been going on for years. Why is it we separated schools according to enrollment when even today the largest school in the state hasn't had a championship caliber team in several years and but yet every year you see many 2A schools beating 5A schools.
Now I'm not saying the classification system doesn't work but we have found anomalies and because of them many jumped to conclusion as to why this is so and instantly grouped all like kinds into that group with unsubstantial evidence. I still believe the problem alongside lack of good leadership has more to do with how the LHSAA chooses to investigate its member schools.
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Post by Badabing on Mar 18, 2016 7:00:57 GMT -6
Raven - let's say that hypothetically there was no split as we know it today to be called such. For we forget we've had a split now for decades but the basis for was set solely on enrollment. And in this we find out that all selective enrollment institutions coincidentally fit into the ranks of 2A. Would you then make your argument that it was discriminatory towards faith based schools when in essence it was not is it today. I agree with you in that there was a misconception towards all private/parochial/magnet schools, when in reality the same sort of misconception has been going on for years. Why is it we separated schools according to enrollment when even today the largest school in the state hasn't had a championship caliber team in several years and but yet every year you see many 2A schools beating 5A schools. Now I'm not saying the classification system doesn't work but we have found anomalies and because of them many jumped to conclusion as to why this is so and instantly grouped all like kinds into that group with unsubstantial evidence. I still believe the problem alongside lack of good leadership has more to do with how the LHSAA chooses to investigate its member schools. Discrimination does not hold up. Charter schools, lab schools magnet schools, and private schools all fall under this designation. Many private schools have NO relegious connections at all, just most charter, lab, or magnet schools. My suggestion, join this alternative league and shut up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 7:23:48 GMT -6
If the right 60 schools go to the new league this could be the best thing for the LHSAA. I see it as a win/win.
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Post by Raven on Mar 18, 2016 7:44:28 GMT -6
Raven - let's say that hypothetically there was no split as we know it today to be called such. For we forget we've had a split now for decades but the basis for was set solely on enrollment. And in this we find out that all selective enrollment institutions coincidentally fit into the ranks of 2A. Would you then make your argument that it was discriminatory towards faith based schools when in essence it was not is it today. I agree with you in that there was a misconception towards all private/parochial/magnet schools, when in reality the same sort of misconception has been going on for years. Why is it we separated schools according to enrollment when even today the largest school in the state hasn't had a championship caliber team in several years and but yet every year you see many 2A schools beating 5A schools. Now I'm not saying the classification system doesn't work but we have found anomalies and because of them many jumped to conclusion as to why this is so and instantly grouped all like kinds into that group with unsubstantial evidence. I still believe the problem alongside lack of good leadership has more to do with how the LHSAA chooses to investigate its member schools. Discrimination does not hold up. Charter schools, lab schools magnet schools, and private schools all fall under this designation. Many private schools have NO relegious connections at all, just most charter, lab, or magnet schools. My suggestion, join this alternative league and shut up. When 90% of the affected schools are faith-based, yes, it holds up. Charter, magnet and lab schools were simply collateral damage.
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Post by Raven on Mar 18, 2016 7:56:31 GMT -6
Raven - let's say that hypothetically there was no split as we know it today to be called such. For we forget we've had a split now for decades but the basis for was set solely on enrollment. And in this we find out that all selective enrollment institutions coincidentally fit into the ranks of 2A. Would you then make your argument that it was discriminatory towards faith based schools when in essence it was not is it today. No. Because classification by enrollment affected all schools. All schools that fell in that enrollment were able to compete in that classification's playoffs. The discriminatory part of the current split is that it keeps schools in the same classes, but only later does it separate them for playoff purposes. It forces select and non-select schools to play during the regular season by keeping them in the same districts, but then forces them into separate playoff brackets. Select schools are segregated from the main body and not allowed to participate.I agree with you in that there was a misconception towards all private/parochial/magnet schools, when in reality the same sort of misconception has been going on for years. Why is it we separated schools according to enrollment when even today the largest school in the state hasn't had a championship caliber team in several years and but yet every year you see many 2A schools beating 5A schools. On this we agree. There should be a series of modifiers based on out-of-zone enrollment as well as athletic budget and a success factor to move teams up or down in classification to have them playing other schools with which they can more readily compete.Now I'm not saying the classification system doesn't work but we have found anomalies and because of them many jumped to conclusion as to why this is so and instantly grouped all like kinds into that group with unsubstantial evidence. I still believe the problem alongside lack of good leadership has more to do with how the LHSAA chooses to investigate its member schools. Again we agree. See my points above.
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Post by wildcat on Mar 18, 2016 9:53:40 GMT -6
IF the new associations forms I wonder if the LHSAA will allow the member schools who stay to play the new association schools? If they do this could become a scheduling nightmare IF the association begins this fall like they are wanting to do. There would be teams all over the state with Bye's and having to fill them with 1 year contracts. IF 60 schools join the association will there be enough teams to fill a 10 week schedule without having to drive all over the state to play?
Who are some of the schools that are rumored to joining or interested in joining?
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Post by pinion on Mar 18, 2016 11:23:45 GMT -6
Things that I find interesting about the idea of a 2nd organization: Will LHSAA schools be allowed to play the new organization schools? My gut tells me no. Will school boards, such as Caddo and Bossier, allow any of their schools to participate in the new organization? Gut says no. If all of the private schools leave the LHSAA, will the public schools then turn on magnet schools and make them the new enemy? gut says yes.
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Post by Raven on Mar 18, 2016 11:25:52 GMT -6
One of the articles quoted Mike Boyer from Teurlings who basically said 2016 was too soon regardless of if it happens or not.
It would be a detriment to high school football in this state if there was a permanent split, even worse than there is now with the split playoffs. While I don't think this new association is an idle threat, I do think it is initially a bargaining tactic to try to bring the public schools back to the table to see if there is any hope of bringing all the schools back together again.
If there is any way to work it out, I doubt a new league happens. In the event that the public school principles are just too far gone in their belief that there can be no reconciliation without a split playoff, then I think the new league could become a reality as early as 2017-18.
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Post by Brad on Mar 18, 2016 12:08:46 GMT -6
Will LHSAA schools be allowed to play the new organization schools? My gut tells me no. Seems like I remember a matchup with an LHSAA school and a Louisiana Non LHSAA team a few years back, so that might indicate that they would have to make a rule change to prevent it.
I'm not 100% in the know on this game either. All I know is that the one team was in the LHSAA online database and the other wasn't. And I am pretty sure the LHSAA school got credit for this game, just like schools who play out of state opponents.
I will try to find it if I can.
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Post by doby on Mar 18, 2016 12:16:52 GMT -6
6.2.1 LHSAA schools shall be allowed to compete against only the following schools in interscholastic athletic scrimmages,
jamborees, invitational tournaments, and/or regular contests:
1. LHSAA member schools
2. Schools that have officially applied for membership in the LHSAA
3. Junior high schools (schools that do not have a 12th grade)
4. Non-member Louisiana state recovery high schools operated under the jurisdiction of BESE.
6.2.2 All interscholastic contests played in Louisiana by member schools shall be conducted in accordance with LHSAA constitutional
provisions, by-laws, and playing rules.
6.3 OUT-OF-STATE COMPETITION
6.3.1 LHSAA schools shall be permitted to engage in interscholastic athletic competition against high schools from outside of
Louisiana with the following stipulations:
1. The school shall be a member in good standing with its state high school association that is a member of the NFHS.
2. The school is not a member of the state high school association but is permitted to compete against member schools
of the association.
3. The school is not a member of the state high school association but is recognized and considered to be in good stand-
ing with the association.
4. The school is classified as a junior high school in that state.
6.3.2 When LHSAA schools compete against schools in another state, the contest shall be played using the playing rules that
have been adopted by the out-of-state school’s state association.
6.3.3 When LHSAA schools compete against schools in other states, LHSAA schools shall comply with all LHSAA constitutional
rules and bylaws, excluding playing rules
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