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Post by oliver on May 1, 2019 10:31:38 GMT -6
A lot of the lack of interest is due to not knowing who will evaluate a coach's job performance. The district will give an interim principal the power to make personnel decisions with the superintendent giving his stamp of approval. At Rayville, it was known that the last "permanent" principal would be moving up to a district job and it was known for a full year...still, they opted out of giving a successor a permanent title. Perhaps the same is happening elsewhere, including Mangham. The superintendent also relies on the district personnel director and the district "talent pipeline coordinator" to evaluate effectiveness independently. There is no district athletic director to oversee anything. Essentially three separate entities can evaluate and decide on the effectiveness of a coach/teacher and the superintendent will sign off on their recommendations. Basketball coaches deal with this as well, but the talent in the area makes it worth it for them. As the district's schools continue to shrink, more will be placed on each and every remaining employee. Coaches are not exempt from this, nor are they exempted from "last hired, first fired." I think in five or so years, Richland Parish High School will become a real possibility. Ive heard similar things from Richland Parish. I don't know if its true or not, but Ive never seen a system in Louisiana have all head football jobs open at the same time. Something has to be going on!
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Post by educator84 on May 1, 2019 10:48:47 GMT -6
I know im late on this and just putting my input out there but if they cant find a coach to come there why want they just hire someone that is already there... I don't know how it is at Mangham and Delhi, but Rayville literally has/had no one to promote. Prior to last season, they had only two full-time assistant coaches - their OC and DBs coach. Both left for better-paying jobs. Rayville this past season had a HC and maybe three volunteers - not all of them had coached football before, but they wanted to help him out. So Rayville got to the playoffs with literally one full-time coach. I don't think Tharpe had the same issues (Mangham was always well-coached under him) but you can see why even schools like Mansfield could seem like a step up in resources. Every school in Desoto Parish has a surplus of resources, so the Mansfield jab isn't comparable.
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Post by superdome2014 on May 1, 2019 10:50:52 GMT -6
I think he meant Winnfield
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Post by educator84 on May 1, 2019 11:07:26 GMT -6
I think he meant Winnfield You might be right.
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Post by 2paclives on May 1, 2019 11:22:54 GMT -6
I think he meant Winnfield Yep. I got up before I woke up this morning . š
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Post by educator84 on May 1, 2019 13:17:05 GMT -6
I think he meant Winnfield Yep. I got up before I woke up this morning . š Show ya rite! lol
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Post by gatemouth on May 2, 2019 18:19:32 GMT -6
Fact #1: Coaches put in more hours than everybody else on campus. End of story. Period.
Fact #2: Coaches don't get paid enough for their work. End of discussion.
Fact #3: If you can't find a way to attract and keep good coaches (Light class schedule etc), you're not going to have good coaches. Possibly not any (See Rayville).
Fact #4: If you think coaches should have to teach just as much and be held to the same standards as regular standards, you are part of the problem.
Richland Parish has dug their own hole, and they're going the way of Morehouse. They deserve every bit of what they get.
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Post by brprepfan on May 2, 2019 20:08:06 GMT -6
Fact #1."Coaches put in more hours than everybody else on campus. End of story. Period."
Ask Band Directors. Less $$, more hours than certain coaches. Administrators put in lots of hours. More money.
Fact #2: "Coaches don't get paid enough for their work. End of discussion. "
Anyone in education could make this argument about pay. Coaches and teachers know the contract when they sign it. I have been signing a contract for 17 years. I also coach at middle school level. $100 a month is what they pay me to coach. I do it because I enjoy it, not for the $100. I also have had a full teaching load my entire career.
Fact #3: "If you can't find a way to attract and keep good coaches (Light class schedule etc), you're not going to have good coaches. Possibly not any (See Rayville)."
Normally light schedules occur for head coaches. I guess not in Richland Parish. Might be hard to find any teachers there. What matters more than good coaches is talented players. There is a tendency for people to believe that if such and such school had a better coach then that school would win state. I don't buy that argument. If you have talent and are not a bad coach you can win. West Feliciana comes to mind. The coach has been there for many years, and over a 3 year period his team was really good and won a state title. Did he get better as a coach? No. When that talented class left they have not done nearly as well. Did he get worse as a coach? No
Fact #4:"If you think coaches should have to teach just as much and be held to the same standards as regular standards, you are part of the problem. "
Are we talking head coaches or any coach? My wife's school has between 16 and 20 coaches for football. I believe at least 15 are teachers. You can not have different standards for anyone that is a coach. Their main job is teaching, not coaching. Only the head coach's main job is coaching. If the coach doesn't want to teach, then the coach needs to go coach college or professionally.
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Post by oliver on May 2, 2019 21:24:18 GMT -6
Yeah, wrong. But please, use 8000 words to defend your position.
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Post by scoopandscore on May 6, 2019 10:02:04 GMT -6
ANY NEWS ON THE RICHLAND PARISH JOBS? I HEARD SOMEONE SAY ANDY ROBINSON IS STILL GOING TO RAYVILLE THAT WHY THEY HAVE NOT HIRED NO ONE ELSE.
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Post by football123 on May 6, 2019 15:07:11 GMT -6
Iāve heard the same thing about Andy Robinson still going to Rayville and Tommy Tharp going to St. Fredās.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on May 6, 2019 18:37:01 GMT -6
Fact #1."Coaches put in more hours than everybody else on campus. End of story. Period." Ask Band Directors. Less $$, more hours than certain coaches. Administrators put in lots of hours. More money. Fact #2: "Coaches don't get paid enough for their work. End of discussion. " Anyone in education could make this argument about pay. Coaches and teachers know the contract when they sign it. I have been signing a contract for 17 years. I also coach at middle school level. $100 a month is what they pay me to coach. I do it because I enjoy it, not for the $100. I also have had a full teaching load my entire career. Fact #3: "If you can't find a way to attract and keep good coaches (Light class schedule etc), you're not going to have good coaches. Possibly not any (See Rayville)." Normally light schedules occur for head coaches. I guess not in Richland Parish. Might be hard to find any teachers there. What matters more than good coaches is talented players. There is a tendency for people to believe that if such and such school had a better coach then that school would win state. I don't buy that argument. If you have talent and are not a bad coach you can win. West Feliciana comes to mind. The coach has been there for many years, and over a 3 year period his team was really good and won a state title. Did he get better as a coach? No. When that talented class left they have not done nearly as well. Did he get worse as a coach? No Fact #4:"If you think coaches should have to teach just as much and be held to the same standards as regular standards, you are part of the problem. " Are we talking head coaches or any coach? My wife's school has between 16 and 20 coaches for football. I believe at least 15 are teachers. You can not have different standards for anyone that is a coach. Their main job is teaching, not coaching. Only the head coach's main job is coaching. If the coach doesn't want to teach, then the coach needs to go coach college or professionally. I definitely agree about being able to win with talent even if your not a good coach. Our coach had a losing record when the school hired him. He comes to Kinder and the team goes to the Dome 3 straight years then in his 4th year loses a close quarterfinal game to the eventual State Champ. Jury is still out on him after years 5 and 6. We'll see what happens in year 7. West Feliciana was still a decent team last year after losing a lot from their State Championship team.
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Post by nelasportsfan on May 6, 2019 20:57:37 GMT -6
ANY NEWS ON THE RICHLAND PARISH JOBS?Ā I HEARD SOMEONE SAY ANDY ROBINSON IS STILL GOING TO RAYVILLE THAT WHY THEYĀ HAVE NOT HIRED NO ONE ELSE.Ā Iām surprised that Andy would go to Rayville and not Delhi with his past. I think he could be successful at either school.
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Post by blackjack on May 7, 2019 5:56:30 GMT -6
Word is no one will be hired in Richland until August including assistant coaches. Hard to create a successful season with no summer preparation
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Post by oliver on May 7, 2019 5:56:48 GMT -6
Iām just amazed 3 high schools In the same system have no head coach and two of them have been without all spring. Does anyone even care?
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Post by educator84 on May 7, 2019 7:23:23 GMT -6
apparently not, then these new coaches will be held to unrealistic goals with only a few weeks to prep before the regular season.
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Post by Rick James on May 7, 2019 8:48:38 GMT -6
apparently not, then these new coaches will be held to unrealistic goals with only a few weeks to prep before the regular season. Seems like Mangham might have guys in place to keep things running?
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Post by educator84 on May 7, 2019 11:06:08 GMT -6
apparently not, then these new coaches will be held to unrealistic goals with only a few weeks to prep before the regular season. Seems like Mangham might have guys in place to keep things running? Hopefully so, those kids that are giving their bodies up for the program deserve better than what the district is providing them.
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Post by oliver on May 9, 2019 9:13:43 GMT -6
Is there still no news out of Richland Parish? This is really getting hard to believe! 3 jobs open, 2 for months, and no one knows anything? Surely they have hired and are just keeping it quiet?
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Post by scoopandscore on May 9, 2019 10:14:51 GMT -6
I AGREE I THINK THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE GOING TO HIRE AND THEN IT WILL COME OUT WITH THE NEXT HEAD COACH SOON AS SCHOOL IS OUT BECAUSE THOSE COACHES ARE UNDER CONTRACT AND THEY ARE ALREADY IN SPRING PRACTICE WITH
THE SCHOOL THAT THEY WORK AT. WATCH THEY DONT HIRE NO ONE UNTIL SCHOOL OUT. MAY 26 THRU JUNE 3 THAT WHEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW.
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Post by gatemouth on May 10, 2019 5:22:39 GMT -6
I AGREE I THINK THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE GOING TO HIRE AND THEN IT WILL COME OUT WITH THE NEXT HEAD COACH SOON AS SCHOOL IS OUT BECAUSE THOSE COACHES ARE UNDER CONTRACT AND THEY ARE ALREADY IN SPRING PRACTICE WITH
THE SCHOOL THAT THEY WORK AT. WATCH THEY DONT HIRE NO ONE UNTIL SCHOOL OUT. MAY 26 THRU JUNE 3 THAT WHEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW. Richland Parish Football: Welcome to the poop show Now lets go complain about our kids leaving and going to private schools and charter schools and Neville and West Monroe, and accuse them all of recruiting.
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Post by oliver on May 11, 2019 8:26:33 GMT -6
Heard this last night but is unverified. Tommy Tharpe to Rayville, David Taylor (?) to Mangham, Levy Washington to Delhi. Supposed to be already decided.
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Post by kaelppanther on May 11, 2019 9:02:29 GMT -6
Heard this last night but is unverified. Tommy Tharpe to Rayville, David Taylor (?) to Mangham, Levy Washington to Delhi. Supposed to be already decided. Where did David Taylor coach at?
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Post by gatemouth on May 11, 2019 10:26:43 GMT -6
Heard this last night but is unverified. Tommy Tharpe to Rayville, David Taylor (?) to Mangham, Levy Washington to Delhi. Supposed to be already decided. Where did David Taylor coach at? (Former?) DC at Ouachita High School. Honestly don't know if he is still or not. It's hard to believe the parish itself would want Tharpe back after walking out on Mangham (it did not end well). Though he is a solid coach, I am not sure he is a good fit at Rayville. Then again, everytime he had super players at Mangham he was darn near unbeatable (till he encountered somebody else with super players). And Rayville doesn't just have 1 or 2 like he did at Mangham........ I guess DT might be fine at Mangham, who knows, don't know enough about him to say........ Washington, sadly enough, was the most successful coach Madison Parish has had so far (5-5, 6-5, 1-9 in three seasons per Max Preps), so he may be the best option Delhi has available. Washington may be a solid coach, kinda hard to say, but at least he has HC experience, and he definitely made Madison Parish instantly better when he came in.
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Post by keysersoze on May 13, 2019 8:05:54 GMT -6
One thing I believe from Richland parishes history is that they will screw up all three hires.
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Post by scoopandscore on May 13, 2019 8:56:09 GMT -6
I THINK THARP AND WASHINGTON WOULD BE GREAT HIRES FOR RICHLAND PARISH. I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER COACH FROM OHS.
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Post by scoopandscore on May 14, 2019 13:15:12 GMT -6
LIKE I SAID BEFORE THEY WILL MAKE A ANNOUNCEMENT THE WEEK AFTER MEMORIAL DAY WITH ALL THREE COACHES SPOT. VERY SAD.
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