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Post by Lewis on Jun 11, 2021 20:27:42 GMT -6
My nephew played for LCC Huskies this past season and they are a legit program. He didn't have to pay a fee to play and when talking to the staff and the founder they let everyone know they are a Prep program that is affiliated with a community college. The Founder of the program kept correcting parents that said they are a college and even when an article was done on the program he told them about calling his program a college. They had 53 players on the roster and had 36 of the 53 receive offers from 4 year universities at the end of the season from D2, D3, and NAIA schools. Here's the link to the article of one of their games this season. Even though my nephew took his offer I will still be at a Huskies games this season. www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2020/10/louisiana-community-college/
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Post by retired on Jun 11, 2021 20:47:06 GMT -6
My nephew played for LCC Huskies this past season and they are a legit program. He didn't have to pay a fee to play and when talking to the staff and the founder they let everyone know they are a Prep program that is affiliated with a community college. The Founder of the program kept correcting parents that said they are a college and even when an article was done on the program he told them about calling his program a college. They had 53 players on the roster and had 36 of the 53 receive offers from 4 year universities at the end of the season from D2, D3, and NAIA schools. Here's the link to the article of one of their games this season. Even though my nephew took his offer I will still be at a Huskies games this season. www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2020/10/louisiana-community-college/Just to make sure people are aware, there are NO football scholarships given by D3 schools. I would love to see a breakdown of these "offers". So they are a prep program that is affiliated with a community college? Not really sure what that really means.
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Post by Lewis on Jun 11, 2021 21:40:17 GMT -6
The offers to the D3 schools are academic scholarships but you are playing for the school's football team. But I guess you ignored the fact that they got kids offers to D2 and NAIA schools that offer athletic scholarships. Also when a prep program is affiliated with a community college that means they have an agreement or sometimes a contract with the college to send the athletes to their school for education and the athletics are handled by the sports program. This takes place all over the United States. When my nephew told me he was accepting the offer to LCC I went researched Prep programs
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Post by retired on Jun 11, 2021 22:41:58 GMT -6
The offers to the D3 schools are academic scholarships but you are playing for the school's football team. But I guess you ignored the fact that they got kids offers to D2 and NAIA schools that offer athletic scholarships. Also when a prep program is affiliated with a community college that means they have an agreement or sometimes a contract with the college to send the athletes to their school for education and the athletics are handled by the sports program. This takes place all over the United States. When my nephew told me he was accepting the offer to LCC I went researched Prep programs So are the kids clocks running or not? If they enroll in a community college because of an "agreement or contract with the college" clocks are running. So it is just the same as attending a community college from the perspective of the student athlete. In reviewing information online regarding these athletes, where they are going, what type of athletes are attending etc, I maintain that I believe it is in a students best interest to NOT go down this path. Essentially these types of things are the most expensive "travel ball" situation there is. That is all they amount to. Paying 5 figures (not necessarily at LCCC but at the school they are "blessed to receive offers from" to play football. That is all this amounts to. Crushing debt. I just watched the highlights of one of the athletes who was "blessed to receive an offer" from LCCC. Some of footage was from blocking on an extra point! (Not blocking an xp, but being on the OL and just standing there not getting knocked over). It is a shame, but seeing all of these kids "blessed to receive offers" online ...its not terribly different than if someone was "offered" a date by a really good looking woman in a Vegas casino. Note- If you are wondering why "blessed to receiver an offer" is written so much, that just means you aren't aware of how perverted the athletic recruiting landscape has become. Consider yourself lucky.
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Post by Lewis on Jun 12, 2021 7:28:41 GMT -6
The clock starting depends on if the kid is full time or part time at the college. Also my nephew scholarship he received has it where he might have to come out of pocket for $500-$1000 a year and that’s without loans so no debt here. But I have a question, do you hate Athletics or do you hate LCC? Because I’m telling you and shown proof with the article that they are a legit program and they don’t charge the kids an arm and a leg and you’re still putting the program down. I understand they might have some programs similar to them who are about money but this year with my family playing for them showed me they are not. Plus do you know the Founder is an educator and started this program because kids at his old high school where he taught were being over looked?
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 12, 2021 9:49:20 GMT -6
The offers to the D3 schools are academic scholarships but you are playing for the school's football team. But I guess you ignored the fact that they got kids offers to D2 and NAIA schools that offer athletic scholarships. Also when a prep program is affiliated with a community college that means they have an agreement or sometimes a contract with the college to send the athletes to their school for education and the athletics are handled by the sports program. This takes place all over the United States. When my nephew told me he was accepting the offer to LCC I went researched Prep programs So are the kids clocks running or not? If they enroll in a community college because of an "agreement or contract with the college" clocks are running. So it is just the same as attending a community college from the perspective of the student athlete. In reviewing information online regarding these athletes, where they are going, what type of athletes are attending etc, I maintain that I believe it is in a students best interest to NOT go down this path. Essentially these types of things are the most expensive "travel ball" situation there is. That is all they amount to. Paying 5 figures (not necessarily at LCCC but at the school they are "blessed to receive offers from" to play football. That is all this amounts to. Crushing debt. I just watched the highlights of one of the athletes who was "blessed to receive an offer" from LCCC. Some of footage was from blocking on an extra point! (Not blocking an xp, but being on the OL and just standing there not getting knocked over). It is a shame, but seeing all of these kids "blessed to receive offers" online ...its not terribly different than if someone was "offered" a date by a really good looking woman in a Vegas casino. Note- If you are wondering why "blessed to receiver an offer" is written so much, that just means you aren't aware of how perverted the athletic recruiting landscape has become. Consider yourself lucky. I know you know that when you’re “blessed to receive an offer”, it’s because not every kid out there gets one. Those kids are blessed by God to be able to have the right size, right speed, the right exposure, and the right grades, and not every kid has that. So why wouldn’t they be blessed?
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Post by retired on Jun 12, 2021 18:57:54 GMT -6
So are the kids clocks running or not? If they enroll in a community college because of an "agreement or contract with the college" clocks are running. So it is just the same as attending a community college from the perspective of the student athlete. In reviewing information online regarding these athletes, where they are going, what type of athletes are attending etc, I maintain that I believe it is in a students best interest to NOT go down this path. Essentially these types of things are the most expensive "travel ball" situation there is. That is all they amount to. Paying 5 figures (not necessarily at LCCC but at the school they are "blessed to receive offers from" to play football. That is all this amounts to. Crushing debt. I just watched the highlights of one of the athletes who was "blessed to receive an offer" from LCCC. Some of footage was from blocking on an extra point! (Not blocking an xp, but being on the OL and just standing there not getting knocked over). It is a shame, but seeing all of these kids "blessed to receive offers" online ...its not terribly different than if someone was "offered" a date by a really good looking woman in a Vegas casino. Note- If you are wondering why "blessed to receiver an offer" is written so much, that just means you aren't aware of how perverted the athletic recruiting landscape has become. Consider yourself lucky. I know you know that when you’re “blessed to receive an offer”, it’s because not every kid out there gets one. Those kids are blessed by God to be able to have the right size, right speed, the right exposure, and the right grades, and not every kid has that. So why wouldn’t they be blessed? If you only knew Yes, almost ANYONE who wants to can be "blessed with an offer". Don't confuse what happens at OSU or LSU or even Tulane or Nicholls or Southern or Grambling with what I am referring to. Trust me. There are kids out their "blessed with an offer" who didn't even start on their HS teams. As I said, the recruiting landscape has become so perverted that the goal isn't to play college football. It is to say "i was blessed with an offer". But, newsflash, the offer is not really an offer. Not like what one things when they hear Texas offered you, or North Dakota offered you, or Mcneese offered you. As I mentioned previously, most of those kids end up leaving the team (and school) after the fall semester- generally saddled with debt.
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Post by boninesdrippins on Jun 12, 2021 19:21:13 GMT -6
Scam for stupid people.
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Post by Lewis on Jun 12, 2021 21:17:20 GMT -6
But once again a scam is when you’re taking money and when there’s no results. Like I stated before they don’t take any money and 36 of their 53 players last year received offers. So how is it a scam?
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Post by boninesdrippins on Jun 13, 2021 6:09:07 GMT -6
Who pays for the enrollment in the school? Do they not take online classes? Please list the kids who signed at other schools and where. Scam
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Post by Lewis on Jun 13, 2021 7:26:42 GMT -6
I’m not listing all their players who received offers to colleges. You can go on their twitter page and see that. And even with the proof that they are a legit program that don’t charge and get athletes offers to 4 year universities you still feel they are a scam so have a nice day and just continue being negative for whatever reason. But definitely go check out their twitter page and you will see the players with offers from universities
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Post by boninesdrippins on Jun 13, 2021 8:35:45 GMT -6
Scam
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 13, 2021 15:20:56 GMT -6
I know you know that when you’re “blessed to receive an offer”, it’s because not every kid out there gets one. Those kids are blessed by God to be able to have the right size, right speed, the right exposure, and the right grades, and not every kid has that. So why wouldn’t they be blessed? If you only knew Yes, almost ANYONE who wants to can be "blessed with an offer". Don't confuse what happens at OSU or LSU or even Tulane or Nicholls or Southern or Grambling with what I am referring to. Trust me. There are kids out their "blessed with an offer" who didn't even start on their HS teams. As I said, the recruiting landscape has become so perverted that the goal isn't to play college football. It is to say "i was blessed with an offer". But, newsflash, the offer is not really an offer. Not like what one things when they hear Texas offered you, or North Dakota offered you, or Mcneese offered you. As I mentioned previously, most of those kids end up leaving the team (and school) after the fall semester- generally saddled with debt. I can believe that kids who don’t start in HS get offers… it probably happens at Karr or John Curtis a lot if there’s enough studs and not enough positions for all of them Matt Cassell didn’t play much at USC and still had a nice long pro career
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 13, 2021 16:27:40 GMT -6
If you only knew Yes, almost ANYONE who wants to can be "blessed with an offer". Don't confuse what happens at OSU or LSU or even Tulane or Nicholls or Southern or Grambling with what I am referring to. Trust me. There are kids out their "blessed with an offer" who didn't even start on their HS teams. As I said, the recruiting landscape has become so perverted that the goal isn't to play college football. It is to say "i was blessed with an offer". But, newsflash, the offer is not really an offer. Not like what one things when they hear Texas offered you, or North Dakota offered you, or Mcneese offered you. As I mentioned previously, most of those kids end up leaving the team (and school) after the fall semester- generally saddled with debt. I can believe that kids who don’t start in HS get offers… it probably happens at Karr or John Curtis a lot if there’s enough studs and not enough positions for all of them Matt Cassell didn’t play much at USC and still had a nice long pro career Last season’s Florida QB Kyle Trask didn’t start in high school, and until late in the year was in the Heisman discussion, and then chosen in the 2nd round of this years NFL Draft. Trask was the backup in high school to former U of Houston, and current U of Miami QB D’Eriq King And like Matt Cassell who you pointed out, Brad Johnson (father of LSU QB Max Johnson) had a long pro career, even won a Super Bowl, and wasn’t the starter in college. He was the backup of Florida St QB Casey Weldon.
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Post by boninesdrippins on Jun 13, 2021 17:50:48 GMT -6
Neither of which attended a “college” with no campus, no facilities, or no field. Scam
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Post by Lewis on Jun 13, 2021 18:08:21 GMT -6
Neither of which attended a “college” with no campus, no facilities, or no field. Scam Please read my messages over again. The Founder of the program keep telling everyone they’re a Prep program, everyone else keep calling them a college. Also they have a contract with a workout facility and with a practice and game field. But once again all the proof is there that it is legit but some people just love to be negative and hate on positive things.
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Post by Lewis on Jun 13, 2021 18:10:07 GMT -6
I have one question, how do you guys feel about CMP? I see you guys are focusing on LCC, what about CMP?
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Post by retired on Jun 13, 2021 18:12:19 GMT -6
If you only knew Yes, almost ANYONE who wants to can be "blessed with an offer". Don't confuse what happens at OSU or LSU or even Tulane or Nicholls or Southern or Grambling with what I am referring to. Trust me. There are kids out their "blessed with an offer" who didn't even start on their HS teams. As I said, the recruiting landscape has become so perverted that the goal isn't to play college football. It is to say "i was blessed with an offer". But, newsflash, the offer is not really an offer. Not like what one things when they hear Texas offered you, or North Dakota offered you, or Mcneese offered you. As I mentioned previously, most of those kids end up leaving the team (and school) after the fall semester- generally saddled with debt. I can believe that kids who don’t start in HS get offers… it probably happens at Karr or John Curtis a lot if there’s enough studs and not enough positions for all of them Matt Cassell didn’t play much at USC and still had a nice long pro career That's...not what I am talking about. But also, NO. A non starter at KARR or JC getting a real offer is not a common occurrence. I just don't think you understand that "college football" has an entirely different dimension to it apart from what you watch on TV on Saturdays. As I mentioned before, often some of the coaches of some schools (maybe d2- don't personally know any, DEFINITELY D3 fairly common- same with NAIA) ARE COMPENSATED based on the number of incoming freshman they bring in. So the school, "giving an offer" of a few thousand a year in "scholarship" for a tuition of over $15,000 A SEMSTER (like Midamerica Nazarene University--one of the schools that gave an "offer" to one of the LCCC players according to the twitter)... it's just college football's version of a retail loss leader. And as I mentioned before (maybe this thread, maybe another) my issue with it is that I believe the kid is almost universally going to be better off NOT going to Midamerica Nazarene University (just as an example, there are a bunch more. I listed several earlier in the thread) because of football. Lewis Make sure you understand that my point is that the "offers" given to those playing for LCC are for the vast vast majority--are just as I described. They are "offers" of a few dollars off of a fairly high cost to attend a school that if not for the allure of being on a college football team- the student otherwise would never even consider attending. And that fact generally becomes very clear after a semester or year, and the kid/family are on the hook for the balance.
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Post by retired on Jun 13, 2021 18:18:14 GMT -6
I can believe that kids who don’t start in HS get offers… it probably happens at Karr or John Curtis a lot if there’s enough studs and not enough positions for all of them Matt Cassell didn’t play much at USC and still had a nice long pro career Last season’s Florida QB Kyle Trask didn’t start in high school, and until late in the year was in the Heisman discussion, and then chosen in the 2nd round of this years NFL Draft. Trask was the backup in high school to former U of Houston, and current U of Miami QB D’Eriq King And like Matt Cassell who you pointed out, Brad Johnson (father of LSU QB Max Johnson) had a long pro career, even won a Super Bowl, and wasn’t the starter in college. He was the backup of Florida St QB Casey Weldon. I am not sure the comparison of players who were QBs (really the only position on the field where what you are describing would occur) who had the talent to garner the interest of SEC/ACC teams is the same as guys I am talking about. In fact that kind of proves the point doesn't it? If Kyle Trask can get Florida's attention without starting (through the recruiting pipeline, summer camps etc) do you really think the guys whose option is LCCC were just "overlooked" by not only the big boys, but then Div 1AA as well?
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 13, 2021 18:32:05 GMT -6
Last season’s Florida QB Kyle Trask didn’t start in high school, and until late in the year was in the Heisman discussion, and then chosen in the 2nd round of this years NFL Draft. Trask was the backup in high school to former U of Houston, and current U of Miami QB D’Eriq King And like Matt Cassell who you pointed out, Brad Johnson (father of LSU QB Max Johnson) had a long pro career, even won a Super Bowl, and wasn’t the starter in college. He was the backup of Florida St QB Casey Weldon. I am not sure the comparison of players who were QBs (really the only position on the field where what you are describing would occur) who had the talent to garner the interest of SEC/ACC teams is the same as guys I am talking about. In fact that kind of proves the point doesn't it? If Kyle Trask can get Florida's attention without starting (through the recruiting pipeline, summer camps etc) do you really think the guys whose option is LCCC were just "overlooked" by not only the big boys, but then Div 1AA as well? No I don’t. Was just a reply about guys that didn’t start at one level and excelled at another
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Post by Lewis on Jun 13, 2021 18:41:49 GMT -6
I can believe that kids who don’t start in HS get offers… it probably happens at Karr or John Curtis a lot if there’s enough studs and not enough positions for all of them Matt Cassell didn’t play much at USC and still had a nice long pro career That's...not what I am talking about. But also, NO. A non starter at KARR or JC getting a real offer is not a common occurrence. I just don't think you understand that "college football" has an entirely different dimension to it apart from what you watch on TV on Saturdays. As I mentioned before, often some of the coaches of some schools (maybe d2- don't personally know any, DEFINITELY D3 fairly common- same with NAIA) ARE COMPENSATED based on the number of incoming freshman they bring in. So the school, "giving an offer" of a few thousand a year in "scholarship" for a tuition of over $15,000 A SEMSTER (like Midamerica Nazarene University--one of the schools that gave an "offer" to one of the LCCC players according to the twitter)... it's just college football's version of a retail loss leader. And as I mentioned before (maybe this thread, maybe another) my issue with it is that I believe the kid is almost universally going to be better off NOT going to Midamerica Nazarene University (just as an example, there are a bunch more. I listed several earlier in the thread) because of football. Lewis Make sure you understand that my point is that the "offers" given to those playing for LCC are for the vast vast majority--are just as I described. They are "offers" of a few dollars off of a fairly high cost to attend a school that if not for the allure of being on a college football team- the student otherwise would never even consider attending. And that fact generally becomes very clear after a semester or year, and the kid/family are on the hook for the balance. I understand what you’re saying, your program is not with LCC but with how recruiting has become. But I’m mainly talking to the people who are saying LCC is a scam when there’s all this proof out here that’s saying it’s not.
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Post by Lewis on Jun 13, 2021 18:42:19 GMT -6
That's...not what I am talking about. But also, NO. A non starter at KARR or JC getting a real offer is not a common occurrence. I just don't think you understand that "college football" has an entirely different dimension to it apart from what you watch on TV on Saturdays. As I mentioned before, often some of the coaches of some schools (maybe d2- don't personally know any, DEFINITELY D3 fairly common- same with NAIA) ARE COMPENSATED based on the number of incoming freshman they bring in. So the school, "giving an offer" of a few thousand a year in "scholarship" for a tuition of over $15,000 A SEMSTER (like Midamerica Nazarene University--one of the schools that gave an "offer" to one of the LCCC players according to the twitter)... it's just college football's version of a retail loss leader. And as I mentioned before (maybe this thread, maybe another) my issue with it is that I believe the kid is almost universally going to be better off NOT going to Midamerica Nazarene University (just as an example, there are a bunch more. I listed several earlier in the thread) because of football. Lewis Make sure you understand that my point is that the "offers" given to those playing for LCC are for the vast vast majority--are just as I described. They are "offers" of a few dollars off of a fairly high cost to attend a school that if not for the allure of being on a college football team- the student otherwise would never even consider attending. And that fact generally becomes very clear after a semester or year, and the kid/family are on the hook for the balance. I understand what you’re saying, your program is not with LCC but with how recruiting has become. But I’m mainly talking to the people who are saying LCC is a scam when there’s all this proof out here that’s saying it’s not. I meant to say your problem is not with LCC
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Post by retired on Jun 13, 2021 19:33:41 GMT -6
That's...not what I am talking about. But also, NO. A non starter at KARR or JC getting a real offer is not a common occurrence. I just don't think you understand that "college football" has an entirely different dimension to it apart from what you watch on TV on Saturdays. As I mentioned before, often some of the coaches of some schools (maybe d2- don't personally know any, DEFINITELY D3 fairly common- same with NAIA) ARE COMPENSATED based on the number of incoming freshman they bring in. So the school, "giving an offer" of a few thousand a year in "scholarship" for a tuition of over $15,000 A SEMSTER (like Midamerica Nazarene University--one of the schools that gave an "offer" to one of the LCCC players according to the twitter)... it's just college football's version of a retail loss leader. And as I mentioned before (maybe this thread, maybe another) my issue with it is that I believe the kid is almost universally going to be better off NOT going to Midamerica Nazarene University (just as an example, there are a bunch more. I listed several earlier in the thread) because of football. Lewis Make sure you understand that my point is that the "offers" given to those playing for LCC are for the vast vast majority--are just as I described. They are "offers" of a few dollars off of a fairly high cost to attend a school that if not for the allure of being on a college football team- the student otherwise would never even consider attending. And that fact generally becomes very clear after a semester or year, and the kid/family are on the hook for the balance. I understand what you’re saying, your program is not with LCC but with how recruiting has become. But I’m mainly talking to the people who are saying LCC is a scam when there’s all this proof out here that’s saying it’s not. Yes, I would say that without further information I would not call LCC a scam as long as they are upfront. To be clear, not being a scam is a long way from me thinking it is a good thing.
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Post by retired on Jun 15, 2021 19:54:01 GMT -6
Neither of which attended a “college” with no campus, no facilities, or no field. Scam Please read my messages over again. The Founder of the program keep telling everyone they’re a Prep program, everyone else keep calling them a college. Also they have a contract with a workout facility and with a practice and game field. But once again all the proof is there that it is legit but some people just love to be negative and hate on positive things. If they are a prep program, and not a JUCO, then why is one of their signees labeling himself a juco product after "committing" to them on the tweeter? Also, why is LCCC advertising they have entered the NIAA (National Independent Athletic Association, not the Nevada Interscholastic Activities Association), which states it is a " a national organization for intercollegiate, small college and trade school athletic programs."
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Post by retired on Jun 15, 2021 20:33:44 GMT -6
A quick check of the LCAA tweeter feed and I came across LCCC athletes claiming to have received offers from some of these schools (I put the estimated yearly cost in to further illustrate my point):
Arizona Christian $41k Mid America Nazarene $30k Tabor College $43K Oklahoma panhandle state $15,000 Avila University $29k Lawrence Tech University $47k Point University $30k plus fees ---And the "best" UNCG (University North Carolina Greensboro) - CLUB TEAM. School does not have an interscholastic football team. Not even a real offer from anyone officially affiliated with the University. Regardless, Tuition is over $60k a year.
That has been my point all along. Our "look at me" social media driven society has led to kids wanting so badly to post "I am blessed to receive" and the schools are quite happy to rake in the $$$.
Programs like this LCCC prep program (which says it charges $$ and kids go to school, but who lance says had a nephew not pay anything and unclear if he did classes...) only further fuel that misplaced desire in my opinion.
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Post by CLEAN on Jun 16, 2021 14:59:23 GMT -6
I’m still laughing about retired’s comment about a player’s highlight reel featuring the kid getting blocked on an extra point.
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Post by retired on Jun 16, 2021 15:17:11 GMT -6
I’m still laughing about retired’s comment about a player’s highlight reel featuring the kid getting blocked on an extra point. --Clean You read it wrong (or I typed it wrong). The player was BLOCKING for an extra point. I think most would agree that it doesn't matter much though and it is still funny. I am not sure if the kid announcing he was "blessed to receive an offer from UNC Greensboro" is funny, or just sad. As I mentioned, that is a club team. It literally is the same as if someone tweeted that they were blessed to receive an offer to join a local beer league softball team. That is my issue. The current "look at me" social media driven environment kids exist in today combined with the 10 fold increase in recruiting hype has brought out situations where kids and their families are literally going into significant debt to play a relatively low level of football. If someone is already planning to go to a Millsaps, or Louisiana College, or a Mid America Nazarene or Lawrence Tech..thats great. But to make plans to attend (and go into significant debt) to play football... I think that is just a shame. And to that end, I am not really sure that many kids from Louisiana have it in their plans to attend Avila University or Tabor College. So with that point of view, I am not a fan of places like LCCC because they are essentially a bridge to that foolishness.
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Post by Lewis on Jun 17, 2021 19:19:24 GMT -6
I’m still laughing about retired’s comment about a player’s highlight reel featuring the kid getting blocked on an extra point. --Clean You read it wrong (or I typed it wrong). The player was BLOCKING for an extra point. I think most would agree that it doesn't matter much though and it is still funny. I am not sure if the kid announcing he was "blessed to receive an offer from UNC Greensboro" is funny, or just sad. As I mentioned, that is a club team. It literally is the same as if someone tweeted that they were blessed to receive an offer to join a local beer league softball team. That is my issue. The current "look at me" social media driven environment kids exist in today combined with the 10 fold increase in recruiting hype has brought out situations where kids and their families are literally going into significant debt to play a relatively low level of football. If someone is already planning to go to a Millsaps, or Louisiana College, or a Mid America Nazarene or Lawrence Tech..thats great. But to make plans to attend (and go into significant debt) to play football... I think that is just a shame. And to that end, I am not really sure that many kids from Louisiana have it in their plans to attend Avila University or Tabor College. So with that point of view, I am not a fan of places like LCCC because they are essentially a bridge to that foolishness. I just seen this message because I actually have a life and am looking at the positive people do for the community. But first thing my nephew did attend this program and school and also did not pay anything. The program actually have a contract with centerplate at the Superdome so they work the Saints and Pelicans games which brings in a great deal of money to take care of the program’s expenses. Secondly this program is helping kids work towards degrees. If you ever went to a practice which I been to plenty of you will hear the Founder at the end of every practice reiterate how important education is and that they are student athletes not athlete students. And he keeps preaching getting degrees. Like I said when I first posted on here, the Founder is an educator and receiving a degree is his first goal. You guys honestly have to either go to one of their practices or contact him and talk to him and you will hear and see where his heart is. But I have to ask this question, why when people are doing good there’s someone always thinking negative?
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Post by Lewis on Jun 17, 2021 19:22:57 GMT -6
Please read my messages over again. The Founder of the program keep telling everyone they’re a Prep program, everyone else keep calling them a college. Also they have a contract with a workout facility and with a practice and game field. But once again all the proof is there that it is legit but some people just love to be negative and hate on positive things. If they are a prep program, and not a JUCO, then why is one of their signees labeling himself a juco product after "committing" to them on the tweeter? Also, why is LCCC advertising they have entered the NIAA (National Independent Athletic Association, not the Nevada Interscholastic Activities Association), which states it is a " a national organization for intercollegiate, small college and trade school athletic programs." Once again contact the Founder and he will tell you his program is a Prep program. The NIAA is an association filled with Prep programs but they play against JUCOs so technically they’re playing at the collegiate level/JUCO level which is collegiate ball.
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Post by retired on Jun 19, 2021 6:46:56 GMT -6
--Clean You read it wrong (or I typed it wrong). The player was BLOCKING for an extra point. I think most would agree that it doesn't matter much though and it is still funny. I am not sure if the kid announcing he was "blessed to receive an offer from UNC Greensboro" is funny, or just sad. As I mentioned, that is a club team. It literally is the same as if someone tweeted that they were blessed to receive an offer to join a local beer league softball team. That is my issue. The current "look at me" social media driven environment kids exist in today combined with the 10 fold increase in recruiting hype has brought out situations where kids and their families are literally going into significant debt to play a relatively low level of football. If someone is already planning to go to a Millsaps, or Louisiana College, or a Mid America Nazarene or Lawrence Tech..thats great. But to make plans to attend (and go into significant debt) to play football... I think that is just a shame. And to that end, I am not really sure that many kids from Louisiana have it in their plans to attend Avila University or Tabor College. So with that point of view, I am not a fan of places like LCCC because they are essentially a bridge to that foolishness. I just seen this message because I actually have a life and am looking at the positive people do for the community. But first thing my nephew did attend this program and school and also did not pay anything. The program actually have a contract with centerplate at the Superdome so they work the Saints and Pelicans games which brings in a great deal of money to take care of the program’s expenses. Secondly this program is helping kids work towards degrees. If you ever went to a practice which I been to plenty of you will hear the Founder at the end of every practice reiterate how important education is and that they are student athletes not athlete students. And he keeps preaching getting degrees. Like I said when I first posted on here, the Founder is an educator and receiving a degree is his first goal. You guys honestly have to either go to one of their practices or contact him and talk to him and you will hear and see where his heart is. But I have to ask this question, why when people are doing good there’s someone always thinking negative? You asked why people keep suggesting it is a scam (for the record, I don't think I would call it a scam, but I think it may still be a bit predatory). One potential reason why people may call it a scam is the conflicting information. That is always a red flag. You have said "the founder says it is not a junior college" yet as I pointed out the players themselves are calling themselves juco products. The organization has joined a league who defines itself as a group of junior colleges, yet also has an extremely unprofessional website with no clear organizational structure or communications department. You say your nephew played without paying, - the website says you have to pay $1,500. Regarding the importance of "education", as someone else mentioned, the academic arm seems to be tracs accredited- not Sacs accredited. The list of schools where credits will be accepted can be found here tracs.org/members/ . That is a very limited spectrum of schools.
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