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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jul 17, 2021 8:51:09 GMT -6
I’m not one that you asked, but a counter question would be…what were these kids offered at these schools? Academic scholarships at a D3 school has nothing to do with football. And if they were offered a partial “scholarship” at a a D2 or NAIA, they are likely still paying a whole lot more to attend those schools and be on the football team than they would getting TOPS and attending a state school and being a regular student. I think thats the point thats being made here. I think it’s great for kids that want to keep playing ball after they graduate have a place to do so, but thinking that playing at a place like this is anything more than that seems a bit far fetched to me. So saying that its basically a club team seems to be fairly accurate. Not much different than playing men’s soccer at UL-Lafayette. That said, I know nothing more about LCC than Ive read on this thread. And I answered this question earlier. I know what two kids were offered and that’s because one was my nephew and the other one was close with my nephew. My nephew scholarship is taking care of 85% of his tuition and the other kid was 80%. My wife ask me why I keep responding to you guys, she said there’s too much negativity in the world. I know you guys are going to say “I’m not being negative just stating facts.” I read someone say that earlier on this thread but it is being negative when all the proof I have given you and the other man/woman has given you guys. This thread is starting to show that I’m going to change your anticipated response from “I’m not being negative just stating facts” to I’m not being negative, I truly don’t know. What schools were these 85% and 80% tuition scholarships to? And how much is the tuition there? Do they include books and room/board?
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 9:23:21 GMT -6
What question? That if instead of delaying the start of the next chapter of their lives, (be it a legitimate college experience entering the work force) so that they could take online courses from an overpriced Christian community college based in California with limited programs of study in the hopes of tweeting that they were "blessed to receive" an offer to go into potentially significant debt to be a part of an out of state football program that brings in 50+ freshmen a year LCC Players instead started to receive actual athletic scholarships to schools the players have an interest in attending would I judge it differently? If that started to routinely happen like at a Hargrave Military Academy, or with actual JUCOs...I would still say they were by definition just an adult travel team. Because that is what they are. However, I might also say it may now be in a players interest to try the LCC path, or at least it isn't automatically assumed to not be in their best interest. Let me ask you something though...why on Earth do you think that is going to happen? Why do think there will be a pool of kids that FBS and FCS will not offer as HS seniors but will after a fall of playing for LCC? From what I have investigated, right now what LCC is trying to capitalize on is a delayed eligibility clock. If the kids only take part time classes that first semester, their eligibility clocks don't start and so if a 4 year school offers them after that one semester they have the full 5 to play 4. After that..its just like attending a JUCO. Retired you still didn’t answer the question. You’re trying to answer a question with a question but like I always do I will answer your question even though mine don’t get answered. You asked do I believe a kid will get offered from a D1 school from LCC and the answer is yes. They already have a CB that is receiving interest from two D1 schools but his high school gpa was low so he has to receive his AA Degree first. Memphis was interested in one of the RB and McNeese is talking to the QB. So yes I do see a D1 eventually offering a player or players from the program. Now once again can I get an answer to my question? Yes or no? Go back and reread – I did answer the question. I said that I would still maintain that they are simply an adult traveling team because that’s where they are. However I also said that if players for this adult traveling team routinely began to receive the same offers that students of junior colleges and prep schools did regarding division one football then I would have to reconsider my statements about it being not in the best interest for Lafayette area kids to participate- given that there Arent local junior college football options.
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 9:25:34 GMT -6
And I answered this question earlier. I know what two kids were offered and that’s because one was my nephew and the other one was close with my nephew. My nephew scholarship is taking care of 85% of his tuition and the other kid was 80%. My wife ask me why I keep responding to you guys, she said there’s too much negativity in the world. I know you guys are going to say “I’m not being negative just stating facts.” I read someone say that earlier on this thread but it is being negative when all the proof I have given you and the other man/woman has given you guys. This thread is starting to show that I’m going to change your anticipated response from “I’m not being negative just stating facts” to I’m not being negative, I truly don’t know. What schools were these 85% and 80% tuition scholarships to? And how much is the tuition there? Do they include books and room/board? Ottawa and Oklahoma Panhandle State. Now I didn’t know what OPS tuition was until someone on this thread said it and that’s how I knew the person receiving 80%. And I actually said my nephew receiving 85% because that’s what he was told in the beginning. Tuition over there is $29k and my nephew got $30k but room and board is not included. His room is $5k for the year, meals $2k for the year so my sister and brother in law will come out of pocket for $7k. So technically he’s receiving 83% when you add room and meals to the tuition.
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 9:27:47 GMT -6
Retired you still didn’t answer the question. You’re trying to answer a question with a question but like I always do I will answer your question even though mine don’t get answered. You asked do I believe a kid will get offered from a D1 school from LCC and the answer is yes. They already have a CB that is receiving interest from two D1 schools but his high school gpa was low so he has to receive his AA Degree first. Memphis was interested in one of the RB and McNeese is talking to the QB. So yes I do see a D1 eventually offering a player or players from the program. Now once again can I get an answer to my question? Yes or no? Go back and reread – I did answer the question. I said that I would still maintain that they are simply an adult traveling team because that’s where they are. However I also said that if players for this adult traveling team routinely began to receive the same offers that students of junior colleges and prep schools did regarding division one football then I would have to reconsider my statements about it being not in the best interest for Lafayette area kids to participate- given that there Arent local junior college football options. So if they’re getting kids to D1 schools you still will call them a adult traveling team instead of a Prep program like they are. This is hilarious. Adult travel teams don’t play against the schools that were on their schedule last season before Covid hit. You guys are funny but ok
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 9:30:16 GMT -6
Retired got himself a topic that he’s attached to like a pitbull with a big juicy bone Yes, it seems like I do. It’s just been real interesting for me to see how programs like this are starting to pop up because of the interaction of social media and college recruiting. I hope it is clear that my real objection is to students making the poor financial decision to attend certain schools simply to play football. That bad decision isn’t necessarily being part of the LCC program. LCC simply happens to be a conduit it to that bad decision, although I do believe that The opportunities offered by LCC for the vast majority of these kids make it a sub optimal choice as well.
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 9:31:31 GMT -6
Go back and reread – I did answer the question. I said that I would still maintain that they are simply an adult traveling team because that’s where they are. However I also said that if players for this adult traveling team routinely began to receive the same offers that students of junior colleges and prep schools did regarding division one football then I would have to reconsider my statements about it being not in the best interest for Lafayette area kids to participate- given that there Arent local junior college football options. So if they’re getting kids to D1 schools you still will call them a adult traveling team instead of a Prep program like they are. This is hilarious. Adult travel teams don’t play against the schools that were on their schedule last season befor e Covid hit. You guys are funny but ok Prep program-adult travel team, same thing. Why do you feel it is somehow lesser or an insult? It’s a group of adults who just happen to form a team and travel around to play football with the one caveat that they have to be taking online classes to be on the team. If you want to harp on that and see that the leader ship of the program is actively trying to present the players to for years schools and that’s what makes it different and not an adult travel team OK. I say it’s an adult travel team that does those things, you say it’s a prep program. They’re both the same. I honestly don’t have a problem with calling them a prep program at all that’s not my issue
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 10:00:15 GMT -6
So if they’re getting kids to D1 schools you still will call them a adult traveling team instead of a Prep program like they are. This is hilarious. Adult travel teams don’t play against the schools that were on their schedule last season befor e Covid hit. You guys are funny but ok Prep program-adult travel team, same thing. Why do you feel it is somehow lesser or an insult? It’s a group of adults who just happen to form a team and travel around to play football with the one caveat that they have to be taking online classes to be on the team. If you want to harp on that and see that the leader ship of the program is actively trying to present the players to for years schools and that’s what makes it different and not an adult travel team OK. I say it’s an adult travel team that does those things, you say it’s a prep program. They’re both the same. I honestly don’t have a problem with calling them a prep program at all that’s not my issue Prep program and adult travel team are not the same. The Hurricanes in Lafayette is an adult travel team. As I stated before I’m an educator and been so for 10+ years. The entire time I been in education I keep telling my colleagues and students that in my opinion 18 is not an adult, 21 is. The kids at this program are 18-20, you have some 20 year olds because since they’re affiliated with the college you have some people in their 2nd year of working towards their AA. So it’s a prep which is completely different from what the Hurricanes are doing and we know they are a traveling adult team
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 10:03:38 GMT -6
But I’m starting to get what everyone is saying, don’t understand it but getting it. You guys are saying Prep programs are bad and that’s opinions. I see the good that they are doing. Now I will say that they shouldn’t just pop up all over the place and to be honest CMP and LCC are both in Lafayette. If they would come together and form one program and go against these colleges and beat them then the kids would receive great film and then maybe every D1 would be running to their kids. Because if a prep program is beating JUCOs then the D1 schools would definitely show interest in the kids.
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 10:50:03 GMT -6
But I’m starting to get what everyone is saying, don’t understand it but getting it. You guys are saying Prep programs are bad and that’s opinions. I see the good that they are doing. Now I will say that they shouldn’t just pop up all over the place and to be honest CMP and LCC are both in Lafayette. If they would come together and form one program and go against these colleges and beat them then the kids would receive great film and then maybe every D1 would be running to their kids. Because if a prep program is beating JUCOs then the D1 schools would definitely show interest in the kids. But lets take the counter argument-- if they joined together than the entire purpose would be undercut right? Because less kids would be featured. So then I would ask who is LCC serving? And No I personally am not saying that an online based Prep Program is bad (I will go ahead and call it that). I am saying that for the vast majority of the kids, the choice to join one (and the reasons why which I have listed repeatedly) instead of moving on with their lives is a bad choice. For example, that parent that participated earlier in the thread. I truly believe that a young man from Terrebonne Parish who was a backup in HS would be better served going to say Nicholls and playing intramural flag football and getting on with his life than being a part of LCC. Also, in your hypothetical future situation where LCC would have these hypothetical full scholarship worthy recruits: A) Why would those students be passed up by FBS/FCS and even D2 when graduating HS? B) If the answer to "A" above is because of grades/eligibility why would LCC be a better option than traditional JC? As an educator, why do you feel an FBS/FCS level talented kid without the academic skills to gain eligibility (PARTICULARLY the next few years due to the relaxed Covid based policies) would be academically independent enough to successfully navigate an online- A.A program?
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 10:59:52 GMT -6
But I’m starting to get what everyone is saying, don’t understand it but getting it. You guys are saying Prep programs are bad and that’s opinions. I see the good that they are doing. Now I will say that they shouldn’t just pop up all over the place and to be honest CMP and LCC are both in Lafayette. If they would come together and form one program and go against these colleges and beat them then the kids would receive great film and then maybe every D1 would be running to their kids. Because if a prep program is beating JUCOs then the D1 schools would definitely show interest in the kids. But lets take the counter argument-- if they joined together than the entire purpose would be undercut right? Because less kids would be featured. So then I would ask who is LCC serving? And No I personally am not saying that an online based Prep Program is bad (I will go ahead and call it that). I am saying that for the vast majority of the kids, the choice to join one (and the reasons why which I have listed repeatedly) instead of moving on with their lives is a bad choice. Also, in your hypothetical future situation where LCC would have these hypothetical full scholarship worthy recruits: A) Why would those students be passed up by FBS/FCS and even D2 when graduating HS? B) If the answer to "A" above is because of grades/eligibility why would LCC be a better option than traditional JC? As an educator, why do you feel an FBS/FCS level talented kid without the academic skills to gain eligibility (PARTICULARLY the next few years due to the relaxed Covid based policies) would be academically independent enough to successfully navigate an online- A.A program? Actually less kids wouldn’t be featured but if they are it would be the same thing as a powerhouse high school team that have a whole bunch of kids getting offers to colleges because of how the team performed. My nephew’s senior year he was being looked at by Jackson St and Coach Germany said he only recruit players at winning programs. The stats didn’t have to be mind blowing, he just had to see they were winning and see what the kid was doing on a winning team. So once again if they would combine and go beat colleges then that would open more doors for the athletes. Also to answer you other question there’s no JUCO in Louisiana so if a kid being recruited by a D1 or D2 goes to LCC the benefits of them attending is they don’t have to leave the state they can play in front of their family and friends. LCC plan was to give the Acadiana athletes the chance at playing and working towards a degree so another benefit would be they wouldn’t have that housing expense
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 12:44:59 GMT -6
But lets take the counter argument-- if they joined together than the entire purpose would be undercut right? Because less kids would be featured. So then I would ask who is LCC serving? And No I personally am not saying that an online based Prep Program is bad (I will go ahead and call it that). I am saying that for the vast majority of the kids, the choice to join one (and the reasons why which I have listed repeatedly) instead of moving on with their lives is a bad choice. Also, in your hypothetical future situation where LCC would have these hypothetical full scholarship worthy recruits: A) Why would those students be passed up by FBS/FCS and even D2 when graduating HS? B) If the answer to "A" above is because of grades/eligibility why would LCC be a better option than traditional JC? As an educator, why do you feel an FBS/FCS level talented kid without the academic skills to gain eligibility (PARTICULARLY the next few years due to the relaxed Covid based policies) would be academically independent enough to successfully navigate an online- A.A program? Actually less kids wouldn’t be featured How do you figure? There can only be 11 on the field. With 2 teams there are 22 players on the field at a time. Combine to one, and that means kids are getting less PT. They may still get snaps, but obviously 2 teams allow for more snaps than 1 team. That's just math. Now you are starting to get into chicken/egg territory. The colleges are recruiting those teams, not because of their performance but because of the talent (which led to the performance). If the Powerhouse program is developing 14 year avg kids into D1 prospects...well, that's usually not how it happens. I would venture to say the same would hold true for LCC. LCC would not be taking kids who were not offered coming out of HS and turning them into FBS/FCS prospects on a regular basis. And I would not take Chad Germany's recruiting philosophy to heart. Listing one coach (whose stint as a college football coach was not overly spectacular to be kind) and his supposed recruiting philosophy doesn't really support an argument. Maybe that was his recruiting philosophy. Maybe he was trying to be polite and picked a bad method. Why would a kid who was being recruited by FBS/FCS or D2 schools not attend those schools? So assuming that the reason those hypothetical kids that were being recruited by scholarship schools didn't attend those schools because they were not academically qualified, I again ask you- an educator- if a student is not academically independent enough to meet NCAA eligibility standards would pursuing an online A.A course of study a good option? As far as "playing in front of family and friends"... I see a whopping 3 home games? What would be the max? 5 home games? That reason just doesn't seem to be sufficient. And here I simply say that the Acadiana area athletes would simply do better in life if they moved on. I have already demonstrated several reasons why CCC's academic program is probably not in the best interest of many- and I would suggest that going through all of the machinations required just to play a low level of post HS football is not in the best interest of vast majority of the kids.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 17, 2021 13:05:11 GMT -6
But lets take the counter argument-- if they joined together than the entire purpose would be undercut right? Because less kids would be featured. So then I would ask who is LCC serving? And No I personally am not saying that an online based Prep Program is bad (I will go ahead and call it that). I am saying that for the vast majority of the kids, the choice to join one (and the reasons why which I have listed repeatedly) instead of moving on with their lives is a bad choice. Also, in your hypothetical future situation where LCC would have these hypothetical full scholarship worthy recruits: A) Why would those students be passed up by FBS/FCS and even D2 when graduating HS? B) If the answer to "A" above is because of grades/eligibility why would LCC be a better option than traditional JC? As an educator, why do you feel an FBS/FCS level talented kid without the academic skills to gain eligibility (PARTICULARLY the next few years due to the relaxed Covid based policies) would be academically independent enough to successfully navigate an online- A.A program? Actually less kids wouldn’t be featured but if they are it would be the same thing as a powerhouse high school team that have a whole bunch of kids getting offers to colleges because of how the team performed. My nephew’s senior year he was being looked at by Jackson St and Coach Germany said he only recruit players at winning programs. The stats didn’t have to be mind blowing, he just had to see they were winning and see what the kid was doing on a winning team. So once again if they would combine and go beat colleges then that would open more doors for the athletes. Also to answer you other question there’s no JUCO in Louisiana so if a kid being recruited by a D1 or D2 goes to LCC the benefits of them attending is they don’t have to leave the state they can play in front of their family and friends. LCC plan was to give the Acadiana athletes the chance at playing and working towards a degree so another benefit would be they wouldn’t have that housing expense so that college coach doesn’t know football is a team sport? He’ll gladly miss out on a stud QB because the LBs can’t tackle anybody and the kicker misses PATs 😂
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 15:51:26 GMT -6
Actually less kids wouldn’t be featured How do you figure? There can only be 11 on the field. With 2 teams there are 22 players on the field at a time. Combine to one, and that means kids are getting less PT. They may still get snaps, but obviously 2 teams allow for more snaps than 1 team. That's just math. Now you are starting to get into chicken/egg territory. The colleges are recruiting those teams, not because of their performance but because of the talent (which led to the performance). If the Powerhouse program is developing 14 year avg kids into D1 prospects...well, that's usually not how it happens. I would venture to say the same would hold true for LCC. LCC would not be taking kids who were not offered coming out of HS and turning them into FBS/FCS prospects on a regular basis. And I would not take Chad Germany's recruiting philosophy to heart. Listing one coach (whose stint as a college football coach was not overly spectacular to be kind) and his supposed recruiting philosophy doesn't really support an argument. Maybe that was his recruiting philosophy. Maybe he was trying to be polite and picked a bad method. Why would a kid who was being recruited by FBS/FCS or D2 schools not attend those schools? So assuming that the reason those hypothetical kids that were being recruited by scholarship schools didn't attend those schools because they were not academically qualified, I again ask you- an educator- if a student is not academically independent enough to meet NCAA eligibility standards would pursuing an online A.A course of study a good option? As far as "playing in front of family and friends"... I see a whopping 3 home games? What would be the max? 5 home games? That reason just doesn't seem to be sufficient. And here I simply say that the Acadiana area athletes would simply do better in life if they moved on. I have already demonstrated several reasons why CCC's academic program is probably not in the best interest of many- and I would suggest that going through all of the machinations required just to play a low level of post HS football is not in the best interest of vast majority of the kids. [ Yes 11 guys are on the field for a team at one time but you do know there’s packages that offenses and defenses run right. So if they would combine players would get their opportunity to shine. Also I only used him as an example, I was with my nephew through his entire high school recruiting and other kids who attended the high school I taught at and it was way more than him who made that comment. Once again I don’t know the schedule for this year but last year 5 home games were scheduled plus the 2 they played against CMP so that would be 7 games in Lafayette. Also online or face to face classes don’t matter. You’re talking to a guy who received his Masters online from Grand Canyon. Me having my online degree masters got me a higher position in the education field.
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 15:54:21 GMT -6
Actually less kids wouldn’t be featured but if they are it would be the same thing as a powerhouse high school team that have a whole bunch of kids getting offers to colleges because of how the team performed. My nephew’s senior year he was being looked at by Jackson St and Coach Germany said he only recruit players at winning programs. The stats didn’t have to be mind blowing, he just had to see they were winning and see what the kid was doing on a winning team. So once again if they would combine and go beat colleges then that would open more doors for the athletes. Also to answer you other question there’s no JUCO in Louisiana so if a kid being recruited by a D1 or D2 goes to LCC the benefits of them attending is they don’t have to leave the state they can play in front of their family and friends. LCC plan was to give the Acadiana athletes the chance at playing and working towards a degree so another benefit would be they wouldn’t have that housing expense so that college coach doesn’t know football is a team sport? He’ll gladly miss out on a stud QB because the LBs can’t tackle anybody and the kicker misses PATs 😂 Hey I don’t agree with it but a lot of coaches have said that. I know a RB about four years ago who played for West St Mary High who was a stud and had a good gpa but the team was winning 2-3 games a year. Coaches were ignoring what he did and I know the parents personally and they said coaches weren’t coming to recruit because of how the team was performing. That kid should have been playing college football.
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 16:05:56 GMT -6
How do you figure? There can only be 11 on the field. With 2 teams there are 22 players on the field at a time. Combine to one, and that means kids are getting less PT. They may still get snaps, but obviously 2 teams allow for more snaps than 1 team. That's just math. Now you are starting to get into chicken/egg territory. The colleges are recruiting those teams, not because of their performance but because of the talent (which led to the performance). If the Powerhouse program is developing 14 year avg kids into D1 prospects...well, that's usually not how it happens. I would venture to say the same would hold true for LCC. LCC would not be taking kids who were not offered coming out of HS and turning them into FBS/FCS prospects on a regular basis. And I would not take Chad Germany's recruiting philosophy to heart. Listing one coach (whose stint as a college football coach was not overly spectacular to be kind) and his supposed recruiting philosophy doesn't really support an argument. Maybe that was his recruiting philosophy. Maybe he was trying to be polite and picked a bad method. Why would a kid who was being recruited by FBS/FCS or D2 schools not attend those schools? So assuming that the reason those hypothetical kids that were being recruited by scholarship schools didn't attend those schools because they were not academically qualified, I again ask you- an educator- if a student is not academically independent enough to meet NCAA eligibility standards would pursuing an online A.A course of study a good option? As far as "playing in front of family and friends"... I see a whopping 3 home games? What would be the max? 5 home games? That reason just doesn't seem to be sufficient. And here I simply say that the Acadiana area athletes would simply do better in life if they moved on. I have already demonstrated several reasons why CCC's academic program is probably not in the best interest of many- and I would suggest that going through all of the machinations required just to play a low level of post HS football is not in the best interest of vast majority of the kids. [ Yes 11 guys are on the field for a team at one time but you do know there’s packages that offenses and defenses run right. So if they would combine players would get their opportunity to shine. Also I only used him as an example, I was with my nephew through his entire high school recruiting and other kids who attended the high school I taught at and it was way more than him who made that comment. Once again I don’t know the schedule for this year but last year 5 home games were scheduled plus the 2 they played against CMP so that would be 7 games in Lafayette. Also online or face to face classes don’t matter. You’re talking to a guy who received his Masters online from Grand Canyon. Me having my online degree masters got me a higher position in the education field. You are in education with a Masters degree and you don't think that online vs face to face matters for students who are not academically independent? From my perspective as an educator, that is fairly disappointing. Because remember, that is the population we have been discussing in the last several posts. The hypothetical group of kids with Division I talent that for some reason would be in the position where LCC was an option. The only reason that hypothetical group would exist is because those kids weren't academically independent enough to achieve NCAA or NAIA eligibility.
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 16:14:27 GMT -6
[ Yes 11 guys are on the field for a team at one time but you do know there’s packages that offenses and defenses run right. So if they would combine players would get their opportunity to shine. Also I only used him as an example, I was with my nephew through his entire high school recruiting and other kids who attended the high school I taught at and it was way more than him who made that comment. Once again I don’t know the schedule for this year but last year 5 home games were scheduled plus the 2 they played against CMP so that would be 7 games in Lafayette. Also online or face to face classes don’t matter. You’re talking to a guy who received his Masters online from Grand Canyon. Me having my online degree masters got me a higher position in the education field. You are in education with a Masters degree and you don't think that online vs face to face matters for students who are not academically independent? From my perspective as an educator, that is fairly disappointing. Because remember, that is the population we have been discussing in the last several posts. The hypothetical group of kids with Division I talent that for some reason would be in the position where LCC was an option. I would say go back to a comment I made earlier but we been discussing this for so long that it would take forever for you to find it. LCC is affiliated with a college which is Community Christian College (online school) but I also said some of the kids do go to SLCC. So there’s the option of online or face to face. I don’t remember the exact numbers but I told you they had 53 players last year and I believe 8 went to SLCC. So when one of your questions get proven or something you if against LCC is proven otherwise you come back with something different. So if a kid wants to go face to face they go to SLCC. Now I know what the responses will be to this comment but I’ll wait for you or someone else to say it.
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 16:19:15 GMT -6
And I’m going to apologize because I didn’t explain what I meant when I said it don’t matter because I was typing and playing with my kids at the same time. When I said it don’t matter face to face or online I was saying what I just posted that you can attend LCC program and go online (CCC) or face to face (SLCC), you have the option. But also I just texted my nephew and he said two days out the week they have to meet with a tutor and the founder who is also in education and there’s a study session so they’re not alone with the work.
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Post by retired on Jul 17, 2021 16:22:14 GMT -6
You are in education with a Masters degree and you don't think that online vs face to face matters for students who are not academically independent? From my perspective as an educator, that is fairly disappointing. Because remember, that is the population we have been discussing in the last several posts. The hypothetical group of kids with Division I talent that for some reason would be in the position where LCC was an option. I would say go back to a comment I made earlier but we been discussing this for so long that it would take forever for you to find it. LCC is affiliated with a college which is Community Christian College (online school) but I also said some of the kids do go to SLCC. So there’s the option of online or face to face. I don’t remember the exact numbers but I told you they had 53 players last year and I believe 8 went to SLCC. So when one of your questions get proven or something you if against LCC is proven otherwise you come back with something different. So if a kid wants to go face to face they go to SLCC. Now I know what the responses will be to this comment but I’ll wait for you or someone else to say it. No, that is a fair enough statement. I would argue that the academic resources of being part of a JUCO football program would be much greater than just being a student at SLCC, and that doing so is a much better choice even if it means not getting to play 3-6 games in the Lafayette area. And we haven't addressed the fact that choosing a JUCO would mean the athlete would be being coached by what I would consider "professional" coaches with career coaching aspirations not just some guys who seem to like football.
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Post by Lewis on Jul 17, 2021 16:34:04 GMT -6
I would say go back to a comment I made earlier but we been discussing this for so long that it would take forever for you to find it. LCC is affiliated with a college which is Community Christian College (online school) but I also said some of the kids do go to SLCC. So there’s the option of online or face to face. I don’t remember the exact numbers but I told you they had 53 players last year and I believe 8 went to SLCC. So when one of your questions get proven or something you if against LCC is proven otherwise you come back with something different. So if a kid wants to go face to face they go to SLCC. Now I know what the responses will be to this comment but I’ll wait for you or someone else to say it. No, that is a fair enough statement. I would argue that the academic resources of being part of a JUCO football program would be much greater than just being a student at SLCC, and that doing so is a much better choice even if it means not getting to play 3-6 games in the Lafayette area. And we haven't addressed the fact that choosing a JUCO would mean the athlete would be being coached by what I would consider "professional" coaches with career coaching aspirations not just some guys who seem to like football. I agree with you with coaching somewhat only because like I said I was by these guys last season. Yes there’s a couple coaches there who love football but majority of the coaches are there to build a career. And trust me I understand what you been saying this entire thread but some people on here just being negative and making comments that are not true. I want this to be successful for the young kids that have a legitimate chance of playing college football and attend LCC. And last year it was successful
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Post by coachlou on Jan 16, 2022 17:47:07 GMT -6
The ignorance on the internet is wild ! We are not a scam we are a post grad program going into its 3rd year , we have just come off a National championship season with players getting visits from UL Gram and SU and more! No we don’t have a campus our school affiliate CCC is online we have a physical building in Lafayette on Kaslite Saloom for grade checks. The afore mentioned program CMP we have beaten over 4 times, before you spill ignorance on the net ask questions first 🔵⚪️🔵⚪️
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Post by coachlou on Jan 16, 2022 17:47:34 GMT -6
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Post by retired on Jan 17, 2022 7:31:37 GMT -6
The ignorance on the internet is wild ! We are not a scam we are a post grad program going into its 3rd year , we have just come off a National championship season with players getting visits from UL Gram and SU and more! No we don’t have a campus our school affiliate CCC is online we have a physical building in Lafayette on Kaslite Saloom for grade checks. The afore mentioned program CMP we have beaten over 4 times, before you spill ignorance on the net ask questions first 🔵⚪️🔵⚪️ Why would any expect the membership of a HS sports message board to be educated on the operations of a virtual post grad football program? The concept is relatively new and such an odd one anyway that I wouldn't expect many to. So of course there will be ignorance regarding the topic. I agree though, I think it has been pretty well established in this thread (and others) that LCC is NOT a scam based on the definition of scam. That doesn't make it a good thing either.
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Post by CLEAN on Nov 16, 2023 8:39:55 GMT -6
They evidently changed the logo, school colors and the name to Community Christian and reportedly have 185 players per X
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Post by cajunjj on Nov 16, 2023 15:55:10 GMT -6
Louisiana Community Christian College is a scam. This is not about any other institution that offers education and athletics. Correct, there some great institutions that offer good athletic and a quality education.
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