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Post by Thumper01 on Feb 2, 2016 11:05:08 GMT -6
Well, here we are some 25 years later and the only topic on this board is the public/private split. I do remember moving to Louisiana from Texas back many many years ago, my first reaction when I was told our little private school could play in the public sports association was "hey this is great for us" and it was. So we got the best of both worlds, a private school that gave us the academic, athletic, spiritual and safety that we wanted. but by playing in the public association we got to go to the Dome. I said 25 years ago and now too that private schools should have their own association.
Now that the public school principals have had to put up with this issue for all these years and private schools if they want to have any credibility as being "different" the time has come for the privates to form their own Louisiana Private School Athletic Association.
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Post by kamala on Feb 2, 2016 12:05:37 GMT -6
Well, here we are some 25 years later and the only topic on this board is the public/private split. I do remember moving to Louisiana from Texas back many many years ago, my first reaction when I was told our little private school could play in the public sports association was "hey this is great for us" and it was. So we got the best of both worlds, a private school that gave us the academic, athletic, spiritual and safety that we wanted. but by playing in the public association we got to go to the Dome. I said 25 years ago and now too that private schools should have their own association. Now that the public school principals have had to put up with this issue for all these years and private schools if they want to have any credibility as being "different" the time has come for the privates to form their own Louisiana Private School Athletic Association. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Raven on Feb 2, 2016 12:11:53 GMT -6
I thought you were better than that, kamala.
Stay classy.
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Post by kamala on Feb 2, 2016 12:13:17 GMT -6
It's called humor Raven.
Nothing ugly meant at all. I like Ol' Curly Bill....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 12:37:20 GMT -6
It's called humor Raven. Nothing ugly meant at all. I like Ol' Curly Bill.... It's called being something else that has locked other threads.
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Post by deadman318 on Feb 2, 2016 12:56:42 GMT -6
It's called humor Raven. Nothing ugly meant at all. I like Ol' Curly Bill.... Lol!!! That Kamala guy is funny... Went Tombstone on him...
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Post by iknownuthing on Feb 2, 2016 13:11:28 GMT -6
Yep, we sure do, as quickly as possible. Time to get out but leave the door open to any public school or charter who wants to jump with us. In the mean time, maybe its time for private schools to stop inviting public schools who voted yes to their baseball tournaments and other supporting events. Maybe those private schools who host freshmen and JV leagues make them more exclusive also.
I also noted that it seems the mostly that the public schools that voted yes, have a hard time competing against other public schools much less private schools. Like Barbe. Where you at Barbie?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 13:16:06 GMT -6
Barbe seems to do aiight in baseball.
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Post by indy on Feb 2, 2016 14:39:34 GMT -6
Well, here we are some 25 years later and the only topic on this board is the public/private split. I do remember moving to Louisiana from Texas back many many years ago, my first reaction when I was told our little private school could play in the public sports association was "hey this is great for us" and it was. So we got the best of both worlds, a private school that gave us the academic, athletic, spiritual and safety that we wanted. but by playing in the public association we got to go to the Dome. I said 25 years ago and now too that private schools should have their own association. Now that the public school principals have had to put up with this issue for all these years and private schools if they want to have any credibility as being "different" the time has come for the privates to form their own Louisiana Private School Athletic Association. View AttachmentI think it's funny! Numb nut picked a soon to be dead loser to represent him! I'd of taken Wyatt Earp!
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Post by Raven on Feb 2, 2016 15:25:31 GMT -6
Well, apart from name calling and some public school supporters trying to usher us out the door, I don't see how staying in the LHSAA will benefit the select schools at all. There may be a little extra travel involved for district games, but at least we wouldn't have them telling us who we have to play in district, then turning around and telling us we can't play those same teams in the playoffs. That makes no sense to me.
I still hold out some hope that there is a way to bring all schools back together, but someone is going to have take the lead in that effort and do something more constructive than Bonine has done so far.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Feb 2, 2016 16:22:10 GMT -6
he could start by focusing on just 5A at first...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 17:06:17 GMT -6
Form a private association. I think thats a great idea. Get Ken Trahan to be your commissioner, and John Curtis and Bill Stubbs to he his assistant directors.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 17:15:19 GMT -6
Well, apart from name calling and some public school supporters trying to usher us out the door, I don't see how staying in the LHSAA will benefit the select schools at all. There may be a little extra travel involved for district games, but at least we wouldn't have them telling us who we have to play in district, then turning around and telling us we can't play those same teams in the playoffs. That makes no sense to me. I still hold out some hope that there is a way to bring all schools back together, but someone is going to have take the lead in that effort and do something more constructive than Bonine has done so far. Both the private and public schools get plenty from belonging to the LHSAA. They get good competition during the year, they get reasonable travel to keep natural rivalries and their cost down and they get increased gate revenue by playing local schools. In addition, you don't see a whole lot of Division I players coming out of the Louisiana version of MISA. From where I stand, if the private schools break away they still don't get to combine with the public schools. So what have they really accomplished? They just added more travel, more expense and less competition to there program. Not a very smart business decision.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 17:28:06 GMT -6
Form a private association. I think thats a great idea. Get Ken Trahan to be your commissioner, and John Curtis and Bill Stubbs to he his assistant directors. I realize that what I'm about to tell you might get me kicked off this forum but you are an absolute and should be kicked off too. If I'm gone I am counting on all voices of reason to pick up my cause. SpongeBob is an ! I would second his nomination, most qualified for the job.
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Post by 40back on Feb 2, 2016 17:53:22 GMT -6
Form a private association. I think thats a great idea. Get Ken Trahan to be your commissioner, and John Curtis and Bill Stubbs to he his assistant directors. I realize that what I'm about to tell you might get me kicked off this forum but you are an absolute and should be kicked off too. If I'm gone I am counting on all voices of reason to pick up my cause. SpongeBob is an ! It's sad when a grown man resorts to name calling and insulting people like this guy does. I guess bigbobjohnsonmagnum struck a nerve.
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Post by BGH on Feb 3, 2016 7:32:26 GMT -6
Nothing ugly meant at all. I like Ol' Curly Bill.... Yeah he was a great person. An opium addict that murdered the sheriff in cold blood.
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Post by coachtanklo on Feb 3, 2016 8:07:44 GMT -6
IF PRIVATE SCHOOLS DO FORM THEIR OWN ASSOCIATION LIKE SOME PEOPLE WANT THEM TO DO ,THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES WHAT HAPPENS TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS . WILL UNIVERSITY LAB ,SOUTHERN LAB , SCOTLANDVILLE ,BYRD,ETC WILL NOW HAVE UNFAIR ADVANTAGES OVER OTHER PUBLIS SCHOOLS .? WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM ? ARE WE DOWN TO FOUR CLASSES INSTEAD OF 5 CLASSES ? DO WE FINALLY GET RID OF CLASS B AND C SCHOOLS AND MAKE THEM PLAY 1A ? BE CAREFUL WHAT U WISH FOR !!!
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Post by indy on Feb 3, 2016 8:25:46 GMT -6
Why don't public schools leave? They can start from scratch, pick their own leaders and make their own rules. Just a thought?
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Post by LATigerFan on Feb 3, 2016 8:27:22 GMT -6
Bigbobjohnson for public school president
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Post by indy on Feb 3, 2016 9:03:25 GMT -6
Bigbobjohnson for public school president Wow! That would be great for the privates, guessing half the publics would join us!! I vote for spongebob!
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Post by Raven on Feb 3, 2016 9:24:46 GMT -6
Well, apart from name calling and some public school supporters trying to usher us out the door, I don't see how staying in the LHSAA will benefit the select schools at all. There may be a little extra travel involved for district games, but at least we wouldn't have them telling us who we have to play in district, then turning around and telling us we can't play those same teams in the playoffs. That makes no sense to me. I still hold out some hope that there is a way to bring all schools back together, but someone is going to have take the lead in that effort and do something more constructive than Bonine has done so far. Both the private and public schools get plenty from belonging to the LHSAA. They get good competition during the year, they get reasonable travel to keep natural rivalries and their cost down and they get increased gate revenue by playing local schools. In addition, you don't see a whole lot of Division I players coming out of the Louisiana version of MISA. From where I stand, if the private schools break away they still don't get to combine with the public schools. So what have they really accomplished? They just added more travel, more expense and less competition to there program. Not a very smart business decision. tornado33, I don't want to see the private schools leave. I would rather find a way for all schools to compete together (with some adjustments) like we used to. However, if the majority of public schools don't agree to such an attempt, there is no other real option for the private schools. While there may be advantages to staying, at least in a separate association, they will be able to organize it how they want and not have decisions made for them by the public school majority. Self-determination is a strong incentive. There are many reasons you don't see many D1 players coming from MAIS schools. For the most part, they are far smaller than their LHSAA counterparts. Their 4A classification might roughly correspond to a large 2A or small 3A school in Louisiana. Also, you have to consider that 90% of these schools were founded in the late 60s or early 70s, so not many of them have the tradition that the older private schools in Louisiana have. Then consider that even among other private schools, most of the D1 talent comes from the 4A and 5A ranks, which the MAIS does not have (at least in terms of number of students). If you removed the Catholic League schools, John Curtis and Evangel, how much D1 talent would the rest of the private schools in the state produce? While it would probably still be more than the MAIS, the numbers would be a bit more comparable.
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Post by pinion on Feb 3, 2016 12:15:22 GMT -6
The main problem I see with private schools leaving is that the LHSAA will not let any LHSAA school play a non-LHSAA Louisiana school. That wont be a problem for everybody, but for a lot, it will.
Outside of that, I hope it happens. I hope the private schools form their own league and have a rule that says their schools are free to draw kids in from anywhere and everywhere. Then some of these numbskulls will get a real good lesson on recruiting.
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Post by kamala on Feb 3, 2016 12:32:39 GMT -6
The main problem I see with private schools leaving is that the LHSAA will not let any LHSAA school play a non-LHSAA Louisiana school. That wont be a problem for everybody, but for a lot, it will. Outside of that, I hope it happens. I hope the private schools form their own league and have a rule that says their schools are free to draw kids in from anywhere and everywhere. Then some of these numbskulls will get a real good lesson on recruiting. Reminds me a whole lot of some your's and others' posts back in 2013 when the Split was passed. Ya'll went on and on about how the privates need to just roll with the split and "prove" to the pathetic little publics that the publics can't survive without the private schools' money. That theory was about as wrong as they come. Lol.
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Post by Raven on Feb 3, 2016 12:44:15 GMT -6
The main problem I see with private schools leaving is that the LHSAA will not let any LHSAA school play a non-LHSAA Louisiana school. That wont be a problem for everybody, but for a lot, it will. Outside of that, I hope it happens. I hope the private schools form their own league and have a rule that says their schools are free to draw kids in from anywhere and everywhere. Then some of these numbskulls will get a real good lesson on recruiting. Reminds me a whole lot of some your's and others' posts back in 2013 when the Split was passed. Ya'll went on and on about how the privates need to just roll with the split and "prove" to the pathetic little publics that the publics can't survive without the private schools' money. That theory was about as wrong as they come. Lol. The smaller public schools in South Louisiana would have a harder time of it. For years Kentwood and West St. John fought to remain in separate districts while at the same time fighting to get more private schools in those respective districts. They wanted us because we brought larger crowds than public schools of the same size. I notice the public schools didn't vote to remove private schools from district play. Why was that? Sounds like they still want that gate money to me. Just don't want to play in the playoffs. So I guess, give us your money but don't challenge us for a title. That sounds about right.
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Post by kamala on Feb 3, 2016 12:50:14 GMT -6
The LHSAA dictates that. It's never been a voted on item.
I think most publics would be perfectly ok with private schools being removed from their districts. I would hate to see it because there are several public/private rivalries around the state. But all in all, most publics wouldn't care if the split was in district as well.
I promise you, the publics will always schedule to enough non-district gate games to survive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 13:08:06 GMT -6
Actually it is in the constitution of the LHSAA, which is amended and orginally approved by the then voting body of the LHSAA. So, yes, it is a "voted" on thing. Now, as for the private schools "funding" the public schools through gate receipts. That is total misinformation. Gate receipts are but a fraction of a schools athletic costs. Some publics have large fan following, some privates do also. It is totally on a school to school basis.
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Post by Raven on Feb 3, 2016 13:17:10 GMT -6
bigbob and I agree on something. This is a historic day.
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Post by Raven on Feb 3, 2016 13:20:44 GMT -6
The LHSAA dictates that. It's never been a voted on item. I think most publics would be perfectly ok with private schools being removed from their districts. I would hate to see it because there are several public/private rivalries around the state. But all in all, most publics wouldn't care if the split was in district as well. I promise you, the publics will always schedule to enough non-district gate games to survive. As would the private schools. I'm sure both sides would survive. Too bad. We both thrived when we all played together. But if simply surviving is enough for you, then I guess we'll have to take it.
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Post by kamala on Feb 3, 2016 13:26:26 GMT -6
"But if simply surviving is enough for you, then I guess we'll have to take it."
Your words and your opinion.
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Post by Raven on Feb 3, 2016 15:32:12 GMT -6
"But if simply surviving is enough for you, then I guess we'll have to take it." Your words and your opinion. You were the one who brought up surviving. I'm simply saying we should strive to do better than that.
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