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Post by lurker on Feb 3, 2016 20:49:59 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 20:54:47 GMT -6
Let the fussing begin. griiffenfan has got his delete button ready lol.
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Post by thesplit on Feb 3, 2016 20:55:16 GMT -6
Bye Felicia is what I say to the ones wanting to split
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 20:57:55 GMT -6
It would be good if they could get it going by May, that way LHSAA schools could fill the holes this would create in their schedules.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:04:46 GMT -6
It would be good if they could get it going by May, that way LHSAA schools could fill the holes this would create in their schedules. Curious to see how it all shakes out. May would be ideal. Hopefully it will b resolved by then so everyone can move on.
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Post by lurker on Feb 3, 2016 21:09:15 GMT -6
It would be good if they could get it going by May, that way LHSAA schools could fill the holes this would create in their schedules. Curious to see how it all shakes out. May would be ideal. Hopefully it will b resolved by then so everyone can move on. I agree. Time to part ways and move on.
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Post by LivingstonNerd on Feb 3, 2016 21:33:13 GMT -6
The only thing that worries me about this league is the fact that "Only one association in each state is recognized by the National Federation of High Schools."
So, if this movement gains too much momentum, then the LHSAA could, possibly, be unrecognized as the "official" association of the State of Louisiana, with this new association taking it's place.
Could this be the future? LHSAA an unrecognized association?
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Post by fridaynights on Feb 3, 2016 21:41:02 GMT -6
It would be a big mistake. Northern privates would struggle big time for games. Wouldn't be good. Just remember I told you so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:56:06 GMT -6
It would be a big mistake. Northern privates would struggle big time for games. Wouldn't be good. Just remember I told you so. But remember they are mad because they "have" to play non-selects in the regular season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:59:07 GMT -6
It would be a big mistake. Northern privates would struggle big time for games. Wouldn't be good. Just remember I told you so. We don't and hardly can't get anyone up here to schedule us anyway. We play south of Alexandria year end and year out already. I just don't see it effecting us that much. From a money standpoint I firmly believe they would bring way more fans to Jerry Barker Stadium than what we have now which relates in more revenue. I think the effect point is mute. No one in Shreveport- Bossier will schedule us anyway with the exception of Byrd and they hand us our rear end every year. Lol
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Post by fridaynights on Feb 3, 2016 22:02:39 GMT -6
Not trying to start anything or be ugly. I just thinking would be a huge mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 22:04:30 GMT -6
Not trying to start anything or be ugly. I just thinking would be a huge mistake. I didn't take it that way whatsoever. U have a great point.
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Post by Griffinfan on Feb 3, 2016 22:16:21 GMT -6
Aren't there something like 8 private schools north of I-10?
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Post by headknocker on Feb 3, 2016 22:21:14 GMT -6
Aren't there something like 8 private schools north of I-10? It doesn't mean that all select schools has to join a new organization if one is formed. It would be funny if like 5 selects choose to stay in LHSAA and all the rest jump ship. What in the heck is gonna happen then?
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Post by billyb on Feb 3, 2016 23:52:22 GMT -6
It would be a big mistake. Northern privates would struggle big time for games. Wouldn't be good. Just remember I told you so.
Fridaynight...I have been reading some of your recent ramblings on the split, at the end of the day your side appears to have finally won. Won what? We'll soon see?
Before you write me a biography on the split I have no skin in this game either way...and I get it...you won.
I'm sure the private schools in northern Louisiana are grateful for your concern, regarding their schedules, and I am quite sure they will figure it out.
The private schools in this state don't need the publics for anything. It's great to see the public and private schools playing against one another, great competition, great rivalries, great games...but at the end of the day it is about the money...the privates have wagons full of it....wagons.
Wagons full of Money = Excellent Academic Resources, Best Athletic Facilities, Newest Apparel....etc. Oh yeah, they still get to pick who goes there.
Last time I checked there were more than a couple of additional private schools in northern Louisiana that would probably be willing to talk about the future of a new private school association in Louisiana.
- River Oaks - Riverfield - Prairie View - Briarfield - Glenbrook - Riverdale - Tensas Academy - Union Christian
These are a few of the ones in northern Louisiana, and before you write about the drop in talent level...yeah a lot of the schools mentioned above are lacking the kind of talent that many of the other private schools in North Louisiana have, but give them some time, by the time they get through picking off, I mean recruiting within the rules of the new association, many of the athletes typically playing in the current LHSAA may find their way onto a new campus or two...wonder if they'll have to sit out a year when transferring in from a non member school:)
Remember it's all about the money...and the privates have wagons full of it. I just hope the privates have enough leadership and courage to break away from a group of member schools that don't want them.
Taxation without representation can be enough to spark a revolution...has before.
Good day Sir...I said good day Sir.
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Post by bob on Feb 3, 2016 23:54:03 GMT -6
What you fail to understand is that the new association would not be limited to private schools. Public schools throughout the state would be invited to join. Those embracing competition will want to leave LHSAA. Remember that 120 schools voted to not split. That wasn't just private schools.
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Post by Hortdaddy on Feb 4, 2016 0:14:10 GMT -6
Scheduling is hard,, I will admit,,, most of our non-district games the last four or five years have been out of Caddo and Bossier Parishes except for Byrd. Games from outside our area are Teurlings Catholic, Union, Zachary, West Monroe, Peabody, Redempdorist, Natchitoches Central, Midland Christian (Texas) just to name a few. The last few years we just can't ever seem to make it fit have talked with Pulaski Academy about playing since they are a private and have trouble also. Yes Little Rock is a ways but with I-49 to Texarkana and I-69 not too bad. It would be nice to play closer to home and I would hope that one day get on the Texas and Arkansas scheduling year to make it easier to pick up games.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Feb 4, 2016 3:01:10 GMT -6
Central and Zachary were at that meeting...
bottom line, reform is needed. i should do the math on LHSAA votes per student for every one of our 64 parishes, but bottom line is Sabine Parish splits 7 votes for 1,100+ kids, while we have 1,800+ kids and just one vote. of course the split is gonna pass with those numbers.
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Post by indy on Feb 4, 2016 6:12:43 GMT -6
If a new league is started it won't be anytime soon. School officials are meeting on a number of issues. 1st is to deal with a split LHSAA. A private and public division within may be in the best interest. 2nd. Legal actions can be taken, it's not that hard to see that civil rights, discrimination and other issues prevail. 3rd legislation involvement. And the last resort would be a split but not before a lot of planning. Splitting amicable with the kids interest and not adult egos is paramount.
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Post by TC_Cant_Hang on Feb 4, 2016 6:15:44 GMT -6
Central and Zachary were at that meeting... bottom line, reform is needed. i should do the math on LHSAA votes per student for every one of our 64 parishes, but bottom line is Sabine Parish splits 7 votes for 1,100+ kids, while we have 1,800+ kids and just one vote. of course the split is gonna pass with those numbers. If only the electorate worked the same way...
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Post by LATigerFan on Feb 4, 2016 6:21:40 GMT -6
If a new league is started it won't be anytime soon. School officials are meeting on a number of issues. 1st is to deal with a split LHSAA. A private and public division within may be in the best interest. 2nd. Legal actions can be taken, it's not that hard to see that civil rights, discrimination and other issues prevail. 3rd legislation involvement. And the last resort would be a split but not before a lot of planning. Splitting amicable with the kids interest and not adult egos is paramount. Seems like to many adults are making it about themselves and forgetting its really about the kids
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Post by xcat on Feb 4, 2016 6:31:45 GMT -6
Central and Zachary were at that meeting... bottom line, reform is needed. i should do the math on LHSAA votes per student for every one of our 64 parishes, but bottom line is Sabine Parish splits 7 votes for 1,100+ kids, while we have 1,800+ kids and just one vote. of course the split is gonna pass with those numbers. How many principals does your school of 1800 have?
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Post by indy on Feb 4, 2016 6:51:47 GMT -6
Central and Zachary were at that meeting... bottom line, reform is needed. i should do the math on LHSAA votes per student for every one of our 64 parishes, but bottom line is Sabine Parish splits 7 votes for 1,100+ kids, while we have 1,800+ kids and just one vote. of course the split is gonna pass with those numbers. How many principals does your school of 1800 have? comments like that is why private schools are wanting to leave the LHSAA and the likes of you behind. And the answer is 1, the same number as combining you and spongebobs brain.
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Post by attilathehun on Feb 4, 2016 7:03:55 GMT -6
The only thing that worries me about this league is the fact that "Only one association in each state is recognized by the National Federation of High Schools." So, if this movement gains too much momentum, then the LHSAA could, possibly, be unrecognized as the "official" association of the State of Louisiana, with this new association taking it's place. Could this be the future? LHSAA an unrecognized association? Seriously? You think the NFHS is going to "unrecognize" the organization that consists of the majority of public schools in a state? Money isn't the answer to every question.
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Post by fridaynights on Feb 4, 2016 7:20:19 GMT -6
Would be a big mistake. The thing is they know this. That move would doom many of the privates.
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Post by CrusadingLions on Feb 4, 2016 7:55:33 GMT -6
Would be a big mistake. The thing is they know this. That move would doom many of the privates. How would it be a mistake? The biggest mistake we could make is staying in the LHSAA in its current state. Right now we are second class citizens with no voice. Due to being the minority we have no way to protect ourselves from whatever plan Norman Booker or any other public principal throws at us. Due to sheer numbers we will never have an equal voice. As it is now we are forced to play at substandard times in the Dome for football (10 am on a Friday was an insult) while the public schools keep the traditional Prep Classic times. Now they are spitting basketball and baseball and God know what time/date they'll force us to play those games. We are forced to play district games against teams that won't allow us to compete with them in the playoffs. This wouldn't doom the privates. There is plenty of money and enough schools for us to make this work. There is no reason we need to stay with the publics (many seem hellbent on screwing us at every turn anyway). I see absolutely no reason why this would doom the privates. With all due respect, you asked for this. You can only push people so far before they decide to take a stand and that line was more than crossed over the past few years.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Feb 4, 2016 8:01:14 GMT -6
the bottom line is, there won't be a permanent split... all schools will reunite eventually, but things will change. the voting will be more representative for larger schools, and the new organization will have power that the principals wouldn't give the LHSAA
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 8:03:26 GMT -6
Would be a big mistake. The thing is they know this. That move would doom many of the privates. How would it be a mistake? The biggest mistake we could make is staying in the LHSAA in its current state. Right now we are second class citizens with no voice. Due to being the minority we have no way to protect ourselves from whatever plan Norman Booker or any other public principal throws at us. Due to sheer numbers we will never have an equal voice. As it is now we are forced to play at substandard times in the Dome for football (10 am on a Friday was an insult) while the public schools keep the traditional Prep Classic times. Now they are spitting basketball and baseball and God know what time/date they'll force us to play those games. We are forced to play district games against teams that won't allow us to compete with them in the playoffs. This wouldn't doom the privates. There is plenty of money and enough schools for us to make this work. There is no reason we need to stay with the publics (many seem hellbent on screwing us at every turn anyway). I see absolutely no reason why this would doom the privates. With all due respect, you asked for this. You can only push people so far before they decide to take a stand and that line was more than crossed over the past few years. Aboslutley correct. All the whining will start when all players r automatically eligible when they transfer. The publics really think kids will stay at the local high school for what they all call Athletic reasons. What will happen there will be a flight of kids leaving which here again means more money for the privates. I hope we leave and hope the Catholic League members can make this happen. We will get to play a national schedule and would be fun. My gosh what a great recruiting tool. Thank u LHSAA LOL
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 8:08:37 GMT -6
Would be a big mistake. The thing is they know this. That move would doom many of the privates. How would it be a mistake? The biggest mistake we could make is staying in the LHSAA in its current state. Right now we are second class citizens with no voice. Due to being the minority we have no way to protect ourselves from whatever plan Norman Booker or any other public principal throws at us. Due to sheer numbers we will never have an equal voice. As it is now we are forced to play at substandard times in the Dome for football (10 am on a Friday was an insult) while the public schools keep the traditional Prep Classic times. Now they are spitting basketball and baseball and God know what time/date they'll force us to play those games. We are forced to play district games against teams that won't allow us to compete with them in the playoffs. This wouldn't doom the privates. There is plenty of money and enough schools for us to make this work. There is no reason we need to stay with the publics (many seem hellbent on screwing us at every turn anyway). I see absolutely no reason why this would doom the privates. With all due respect, you asked for this. You can only push people so far before they decide to take a stand and that line was more than crossed over the past few years. Losing a volunteers democratic vote, as outlined by the very constitution in which you agreed too, is NOT being treated as 2nd class citizens. Just what is it that the Non select sector has, that the select sector doesnt because of the Convention vote? This rhetoric is nothing more than drama created by a sector of schools who didnt get their way. Tell me, whats the difference between the two segments that makes one any more or less appealing than the other?
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Post by fridaynights on Feb 4, 2016 8:09:49 GMT -6
I've heard my views from people directly from your school. Would be a big mistake.
Most people that are truly looking at this can see it would be a trainwreck for most privates.
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