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Post by kamala on Nov 17, 2016 10:33:44 GMT -6
Maybe that's why Hanson Memorial and Evangel aren't in the same classification with each other. You really aren't very good at this discussion thing..... Well Sacred Heart in Ville Platte and Riverside, that's better? Sacred Heart can draw from Ville Platte, Eunice, Mamou and other areas....and at one time did. They have fallen on hard times recently and that's on them. A lot of that may be due to the downturn in the oil and gas industry in that area. Who knows.
Riverside is a different animal altogether. Coach Roussel ran a respectable program that went from LISA league to LHSAA and was very successful in football and baseball. Then the John Calipari/Rick Patino of Louisiana sports, Timmy Byrd shows up on the scene and turns them into a basketball recruiting factory, which is followed close behind by much more aggressive football recruiting when Stubbs showed up. Riverside isn't in business to be a schoo anymore. They are in business to win trophies now.
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Post by pioneer on Nov 17, 2016 10:34:33 GMT -6
C'mon Kamala! You know daggone well that the kid could have done EXACTLY the same thing had he moved to Kinder, Welsh, Iowa, etc. There was literally nothing about this that has anything to do with ND being private!!!. Show me the rule that allows a kid to transfer to a private school from a public and play instantly, but going public to public he cannot. I can, btw, show you a rule where a kid can transfer from ND to Crowley High, though, and play without sitting. Can't go from Crowley to ND, though. You are the one that pointed the rule out to me some time back... This particular case is strictly an issue of 'bonafide move'. We can argue all day whether it was or wasn't, but that's a different argument. The rule applies equally to public or private schools. If his move was ruled legit to ND, it would also be legit to a public school. Shelvin could have gone anywhere. Agreed! But the kid moved to the Welsh/Jennings area. Then enrolled at Notre Dame. It was a known "secret" that LSU contacted Louis....through one of Shelvin's coaches who had history with Louis and ND..... and asked that he take the kid and give him a place to play and help him get his grades up so he could be eligible at LSU this Spring on signing day. The kid wanted out of Northside, which is understandable. He wanted to play for a good program, which is understandable. Coach Cook is a great guy and I'm sure LSU knew he'd take care of what needed to be taken care of.
Would Shelvin have moved if he DIDN'T have that Notre Dame enrollment in his pocket? I doubt it! So do you. I dont' think any rules were broken, but it certainly was a case of "the rich get richer" through their contacts.
Cry me a river!!! Moved to Welsh/Jennings???
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 10:34:48 GMT -6
C'mon Kamala! You know daggone well that the kid could have done EXACTLY the same thing had he moved to Kinder, Welsh, Iowa, etc. There was literally nothing about this that has anything to do with ND being private!!!. Show me the rule that allows a kid to transfer to a private school from a public and play instantly, but going public to public he cannot. I can, btw, show you a rule where a kid can transfer from ND to Crowley High, though, and play without sitting. Can't go from Crowley to ND, though. You are the one that pointed the rule out to me some time back... This particular case is strictly an issue of 'bonafide move'. We can argue all day whether it was or wasn't, but that's a different argument. The rule applies equally to public or private schools. If his move was ruled legit to ND, it would also be legit to a public school. Shelvin could have gone anywhere. Agreed! But the kid moved to the Welsh/Jennings area. Then enrolled at Notre Dame. It was a known "secret" that LSU contacted Louis....through one of Shelvin's coaches who had history with Louis and ND..... and asked that he take the kid and give him a place to play and help him get his grades up so he could be eligible at LSU this Spring on signing day. The kid wanted out of Northside, which is understandable. He wanted to play for a good program, which is understandable. Coach Cook is a great guy and I'm sure LSU knew he'd take care of what needed to be taken care of.
Would Shelvin have moved if he DIDN'T have that Notre Dame enrollment in his pocket? I doubt it! So do you. I dont' think any rules were broken, but it certainly was a case of "the rich get richer" through their contacts.
If Louie was still at Crowley High he would have the same contacts at LSU, and I'm sure that's where Tyler would have went. so if he went to Crowley High that would be ok? You say you are not a , and I want to believe you, but....
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Post by kamala on Nov 17, 2016 10:37:25 GMT -6
Shelvin could have gone anywhere. Agreed! But the kid moved to the Welsh/Jennings area. Then enrolled at Notre Dame. It was a known "secret" that LSU contacted Louis....through one of Shelvin's coaches who had history with Louis and ND..... and asked that he take the kid and give him a place to play and help him get his grades up so he could be eligible at LSU this Spring on signing day. The kid wanted out of Northside, which is understandable. He wanted to play for a good program, which is understandable. Coach Cook is a great guy and I'm sure LSU knew he'd take care of what needed to be taken care of.
Would Shelvin have moved if he DIDN'T have that Notre Dame enrollment in his pocket? I doubt it! So do you. I dont' think any rules were broken, but it certainly was a case of "the rich get richer" through their contacts.
Cry me a river!!! Moved to Welsh/Jennings???
I'm sorry. Did you see any sadness or whining in my post? I couldn't care less if he went to ND. Just stating my thoughts on the situation. You sure are touchy about it....hmmmm.....
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Post by kamala on Nov 17, 2016 10:39:04 GMT -6
Shelvin could have gone anywhere. Agreed! But the kid moved to the Welsh/Jennings area. Then enrolled at Notre Dame. It was a known "secret" that LSU contacted Louis....through one of Shelvin's coaches who had history with Louis and ND..... and asked that he take the kid and give him a place to play and help him get his grades up so he could be eligible at LSU this Spring on signing day. The kid wanted out of Northside, which is understandable. He wanted to play for a good program, which is understandable. Coach Cook is a great guy and I'm sure LSU knew he'd take care of what needed to be taken care of.
Would Shelvin have moved if he DIDN'T have that Notre Dame enrollment in his pocket? I doubt it! So do you. I dont' think any rules were broken, but it certainly was a case of "the rich get richer" through their contacts.
If Louie was still at Crowley High he would have the same contacts at LSU, and I'm sure that's where Tyler would have went. so if he went to Crowley High that would be ok? You say you are not a , and I want to believe you, but.... That's not a bad point. Maybe if Louie was still at Crowley, then that's where Shelvin would have ended up. Maybe LSU would have instead contacted STM or Teurlings. Who knows.
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 10:46:07 GMT -6
If Louie was still at Crowley High he would have the same contacts at LSU, and I'm sure that's where Tyler would have went. so if he went to Crowley High that would be ok? You say you are not a , and I want to believe you, but.... That's not a bad point. Maybe if Louie was still at Crowley, then that's where Shelvin would have ended up. Maybe LSU would have instead contacted STM or Teurlings. Who knows. TC and STM are in Lafayette Parish so a valid move is not available.
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Post by kamala on Nov 17, 2016 10:53:43 GMT -6
That's not a bad point. Maybe if Louie was still at Crowley, then that's where Shelvin would have ended up. Maybe LSU would have instead contacted STM or Teurlings. Who knows. TC and STM are in Lafayette Parish so a valid move is not available. I was being sarcastic....but your point is valid.
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Post by eag on Nov 17, 2016 11:03:42 GMT -6
Absolutely. The rich do get richer, whether they be public or private.
But he had to move to go there. If Shelvin's coach had had a relationship with, say, Kinder - it all could have gone down the same way.
I think athletic transfers are an issue, but that is an LHSAA enforcement issue and has nothing to do with private status. That's all I'm saying. ND being private had nothing, zero, nada, zich to do with this. ND having a good coach with far reaching contacts due to stability in his profession for decades may have, but that aint a private school thing.
You (and I) may not like how the transfer went down, but let's not blame every single thing we don't like on private status when that isn't an issue AT ALL in this case.
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Post by iknownuthing on Nov 17, 2016 11:11:18 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure Shreveport has significantly more students than that. The number of students isn't the point. The point is that Many is drawing kids from the whole parish, just as Byrd does. I wonder how many football players at Many live near Converse High, or Negreet, or Florien? I've heard rumors that some kids from Zwolle attend Many high, but I refuse to believe that. Folks in Zwolle tend to try and stay in Zwolle (all they need is some mountains down there to make it all come together). So while you may be hung up on the number of students in the parish, that's not the issue. I wonder at what point the other schools in Sabine Parish were made aware that they were not allowed to field a football team because they want all the players in the parish to be at Many HS? No other schools in Sabine Parish WANT football. You refuse to see the obvious. Many is the only choice for a boy to play football in that parish. And I know for a fact that over the years only a handful of boys have left Zwolle or Florien or Pleasant Hill or Converse to come to Many just to play football.
And yes, numbers do matter. Sabine Parish probably has a total of less than 600 boys in 9-12 parish wide. And you are saying that they are "no different " than Byrd. Caddo Parish probably has 3,000 boys ...or more....parish wide in 9-12. 5 times as many bodies to choose from.
There is no argument or justification. You are wrong.
Your reasoning is flawed because, no one is saying that Many would have to play in D1 like Byrd. By all accounts Many would be be D3 as a select school. Because you have the inherent advantage of getting students from out of other school zones that makes you select. You can choose or select the football players from through out the parish. You do not transfer them back after football is over and they are allowed to play and be eligible for Basketball and Baseball at Many. Typically as socialist do, they set up rules for others in an attempt to punish their success, but do not want those rules to impact themselvew, yet they have the same or sometimes a greater advantage than those they perceived to have an inherent advantage.
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Post by mt on Nov 17, 2016 11:13:12 GMT -6
At this point I'm just ready to see Many vs Kinder and possibly Many vs Madison Prep.
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 11:24:37 GMT -6
At this point I'm just ready to see Many vs Kinder and possibly Many vs Madison Prep. Good point but how great would it be if you were looking forward to a Many -Riverside or ND-Kinder the also?
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Post by jhtigerfan on Nov 17, 2016 11:36:18 GMT -6
Why are you and other s only complaining about Madison Prep? The LHSAA also moved Lincoln Prep, Delhi Charter, Beekman Charter. And Delta Charter., why isn't this so wrong? Maybe because they are not good? Is the complaints towards MP because it a possible threat to Many and Kinders two seat cake walk? Just curious. LOL. I'm HARDLY a , my misguided and always angry friend. And by the way, Delhi Charter is a VERY good 1A team.
The issue is that Delhi Charter and Beekman Charter are very rural, isolated schools that don't exactly have a large base to draw from . Yes, Beekman is close enough to Bastrop to maybe get a kid or two that will help, but not many. Delhi Charter is 10 minutes from Delhi, 25 minutes from Rayville, 30 minutes from Tallulah and 25 minutes from Oak Grove. They aren't really in a position to take other peoples' kids from them. Not to mention that most folks who know Coach Raley, who is also the principal, know that he works the hell out of his kids and they are tough, country kids that put in the work and people respect them. As for Beekman Charter, I don't know that they will ever be very successful. Just entirely too isolated and removed from football areas.
As for Lincoln Prep and Delta Charter...Lincoln Prep is old Grambling. They've been terrible for nearly 20 years now. The best athletes in the Ruston/Grambling area are all going to New Living Word, which is nothing but a basketball academy with tv monitors that kids watch all day and call it "class". No one really expects Lincoln Prep to become a power. Arcadia kids are going to stay in Arcadia for the most part. Jonesboro is too far away. So no one is really threatened by them. Of the group you named, Delta Charter is the most likely to grow into a power. They sit in a very good place. They are on the north side of Ferriday, and can easily draw kids from Ferriday, Vidalia, Jonesville and Natchez, MS. If any of these 4 schools are a threat to become a strong football school, I'd put my money on Delta Charter. But I think it's a little ways off.
As for why Madison Prep is getting all the attention, I refer back to my original post. It's because of the amount of potential students in their area. They have access to more students than Delhi Charter, Beeman, Lincoln Prep and Delta Charter COMBINED, I would think. They have exploded on the scene in football and basketball in a matter of 2 years. They were instantly good right out of the wrapper. That's alarming! A school that can be that totally dominant in 2 sports almost from the minute it opens it's doors has no business being non-select.
Actually Jonesboro has lost a lot of kids the past 5-6 years to new living word, cedar creek, and grambling lab. Dont get me wrong im not complaining or accusing just stating facts. I loved playing anyone when i was in high school. We regularly beat grambling lab, competed with OCS and beat them a few times. Stomped St freds. We did lose to private schools 3 of my 4 yeara in playoffs. We didnt say it was because they were private. We watched film and saw our mistakes. All the games were one possession games except riverside 45-7. But i think they won state that year.
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 11:51:34 GMT -6
LOL. I'm HARDLY a , my misguided and always angry friend. And by the way, Delhi Charter is a VERY good 1A team.
The issue is that Delhi Charter and Beekman Charter are very rural, isolated schools that don't exactly have a large base to draw from . Yes, Beekman is close enough to Bastrop to maybe get a kid or two that will help, but not many. Delhi Charter is 10 minutes from Delhi, 25 minutes from Rayville, 30 minutes from Tallulah and 25 minutes from Oak Grove. They aren't really in a position to take other peoples' kids from them. Not to mention that most folks who know Coach Raley, who is also the principal, know that he works the hell out of his kids and they are tough, country kids that put in the work and people respect them. As for Beekman Charter, I don't know that they will ever be very successful. Just entirely too isolated and removed from football areas.
As for Lincoln Prep and Delta Charter...Lincoln Prep is old Grambling. They've been terrible for nearly 20 years now. The best athletes in the Ruston/Grambling area are all going to New Living Word, which is nothing but a basketball academy with tv monitors that kids watch all day and call it "class". No one really expects Lincoln Prep to become a power. Arcadia kids are going to stay in Arcadia for the most part. Jonesboro is too far away. So no one is really threatened by them. Of the group you named, Delta Charter is the most likely to grow into a power. They sit in a very good place. They are on the north side of Ferriday, and can easily draw kids from Ferriday, Vidalia, Jonesville and Natchez, MS. If any of these 4 schools are a threat to become a strong football school, I'd put my money on Delta Charter. But I think it's a little ways off.
As for why Madison Prep is getting all the attention, I refer back to my original post. It's because of the amount of potential students in their area. They have access to more students than Delhi Charter, Beeman, Lincoln Prep and Delta Charter COMBINED, I would think. They have exploded on the scene in football and basketball in a matter of 2 years. They were instantly good right out of the wrapper. That's alarming! A school that can be that totally dominant in 2 sports almost from the minute it opens it's doors has no business being non-select.
Actually Jonesboro has lost a lot of kids the past 5-6 years to new living word, cedar creek, and grambling lab. Dont get me wrong im not complaining or accusing just stating facts. I loved playing anyone when i was in high school. We regularly beat grambling lab, competed with OCS and beat them a few times. Stomped St freds. We did lose to private schools 3 of my 4 yeara in playoffs. We didnt say it was because they were private. We watched film and saw our mistakes. All the games were one possession games except riverside 45-7. But i think they won state that year. Yea,,I know what you mean, ND has lost many of our kids too. We have kids that went to our feeder school that are starting on many other schools, Jennings, Welsh, Crowley, Rayne, Church Point, Rayne, Acadiana, and Iota. Wish we could keep them all.
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Post by pinion on Nov 17, 2016 11:55:38 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure Shreveport has significantly more students than that. The number of students isn't the point. The point is that Many is drawing kids from the whole parish, just as Byrd does. I wonder how many football players at Many live near Converse High, or Negreet, or Florien? I've heard rumors that some kids from Zwolle attend Many high, but I refuse to believe that. Folks in Zwolle tend to try and stay in Zwolle (all they need is some mountains down there to make it all come together). So while you may be hung up on the number of students in the parish, that's not the issue. I wonder at what point the other schools in Sabine Parish were made aware that they were not allowed to field a football team because they want all the players in the parish to be at Many HS? No other schools in Sabine Parish WANT football. You refuse to see the obvious. Many is the only choice for a boy to play football in that parish. And I know for a fact that over the years only a handful of boys have left Zwolle or Florien or Pleasant Hill or Converse to come to Many just to play football.
And yes, numbers do matter. Sabine Parish probably has a total of less than 600 boys in 9-12 parish wide. And you are saying that they are "no different " than Byrd. Caddo Parish probably has 3,000 boys ...or more....parish wide in 9-12. 5 times as many bodies to choose from.
There is no argument or justification. You are wrong.
They really don't want football or they're being told they don't want it? Fact of the matter is that Many is drawing kids from a zone that includes other schools. That, my friend, is "select". If Byrd is select because they're drawing kids from the whole parish, then Many should be as well. In a parish the size of Sabine, it's not very hard for the school board to be in bed with Many and for them to make sure that no other school has football. As for the numbers bit, that's a different discussion. Either way, with Many doing so well, I'll expect to see them move up a class pretty soon.
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Post by btown on Nov 17, 2016 12:03:37 GMT -6
. Hanson Memorial doest have the population to draw from that Evangel does but yet they were lumped together. Your point is self centered. Maybe that's why Hanson Memorial and Evangel aren't in the same classification with each other. You really aren't very good at this discussion thing..... Does anyone remember him Hanson Memorial was the big dog in the 80's and everyone was talking about them. Every male kid that went to Hanson had to participate in Football. The ruled 1A in 80's.
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 12:10:54 GMT -6
Maybe that's why Hanson Memorial and Evangel aren't in the same classification with each other. You really aren't very good at this discussion thing..... Does anyone remember him Hanson Memorial was the big dog in the 80's and everyone was talking about them. Every male kid that went to Hanson had to participate in Football. The ruled 1A in 80's. Yep, their coach was legendary, can't recall his name. My good friend who has kids at CHNI won a state title playing there in the late 70's.
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Post by btown on Nov 17, 2016 12:15:48 GMT -6
Does anyone remember him Hanson Memorial was the big dog in the 80's and everyone was talking about them. Every male kid that went to Hanson had to participate in Football. The ruled 1A in 80's. Yep, their coach was legendary, can't recall his name. My good friend who has kids at CHNI won a state title playing there in the late 70's. We played them in 81 in the playoffs. They had a running back built like a block. One of the best teams I ever played against.
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Post by iknownuthing on Nov 17, 2016 12:18:39 GMT -6
Most on here would agree that the LHSAA and the principals have mishandled this whole split thingy. There is an inherent double standard designed to punish and diminish all private schools. Meanwhile certain public schools live and breath under special rules that give them an inherent advantage over every other public school in their class with a kiss of love from the LHSAA. Others are sent to the time out closet with the private schools for the playoffs. As long as special rules exist that benefit schools in parishes that they are the only school to offer a specific sport, they will have that advantage. An advantage that is not extended to the private schools. For example if a private school was zoned Zwolle, (just an example) and they started a football program, the home zone for that school would be the same as Zwolle high. EVERY student who went to that private school who lived out of the Zwolle zone would be ineligible for football for one year, even thought Zwolle High does not offer football. Only those who live in the Zwolle zone would be allowed to compete as freshmen. Meanwhile, they can legitimately enroll at Many and be immediately eligible.
Thus it is a double standard and hypocritical for them to demonize private schools. It also shows that membership in the LHSAA does give all school equal rights. There are second had citizens in the LHSAA.
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 12:21:02 GMT -6
Yep, their coach was legendary, can't recall his name. My good friend who has kids at CHNI won a state title playing there in the late 70's. We played them in 81 in the playoffs. They had a running back built like a block. One of the best teams I ever played against. McCloskey was the coach. ND played them in the late 60's but I don't recall playing them later than that.
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Post by mt on Nov 17, 2016 12:23:03 GMT -6
Yep, their coach was legendary, can't recall his name. My good friend who has kids at CHNI won a state title playing there in the late 70's. We played them in 81 in the playoffs. They had a running back built like a block. One of the best teams I ever played against. Was Hanson just a power or did they win? Cause my history books indicate the same usual suspects dominated he 80s too. Was Hanson always a mainstay in the playoffs? I'm aware you don't have to win it all to be great. Just curious
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Post by mt on Nov 17, 2016 12:24:29 GMT -6
Looks like they won in 76
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 12:25:36 GMT -6
Looks like they won in 76 we One title in 1977
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Post by btown on Nov 17, 2016 12:25:56 GMT -6
We played them in 81 in the playoffs. They had a running back built like a block. One of the best teams I ever played against. Was Hanson just a power or did they win? Cause my history books indicate the same usual suspects dominated he 80s too. Was Hanson always a mainstay in the playoffs? I'm aware you don't have to win it all to be great. Just curious I always remember then ranked number 1. I was kid back then and the media was different, so I cannot say.
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Post by btown on Nov 17, 2016 12:34:27 GMT -6
Most on here would agree that the LHSAA and the principals have mishandled this whole split thingy. There is an inherent double standard designed to punish and diminish all private schools. Meanwhile certain public schools live and breath under special rules that give them an inherent advantage over every other public school in their class with a kiss of love from the LHSAA. Others are sent to the time out closet with the private schools for the playoffs. As long as special rules exist that benefit schools in parishes that they are the only school to offer a specific sport, they will have that advantage. An advantage that is not extended to the private schools. For example if a private school was zoned Zwolle, (just an example) and they started a football program, the home zone for that school would be the same as Zwolle high. EVERY student who went to that private school who lived out of the Zwolle zone would be ineligible for football for one year, even thought Zwolle High does not offer football. Only those who live in the Zwolle zone would be allowed to compete as freshmen. Meanwhile, they can legitimately enroll at Many and be immediately eligible. Thus it is a double standard and hypocritical for them to demonize private schools. It also shows that membership in the LHSAA does give all school equal rights. There are second had citizens in the LHSAA. I will go along with you on one this. LHSAA and the principals have miss handled it, oK. What should happen in any organization when you have the apparent differences in views that the LHSAA has? The answer is the LEADER OF LHSAA, has to bring everyone to the table and work towards solving the issues. Can anyone tell me what Bonine has done to try and solve the problem? This is what I have seen. 1. First year give a year to look at it and come up with a solution. DID NOTHING. 2. Waited until the agenda was out for the next meeting and then announced the split is void back to old system. THIS REALLY BROUGHT EVERYONE BACK TOGETHER. 3. Then we got into revote, revote, dumpster fire and so on and nothing changed.
What has Bonine brought to the table beside distrust? That is where I put the blame!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 12:36:24 GMT -6
Most on here would agree that the LHSAA and the principals have mishandled this whole split thingy. There is an inherent double standard designed to punish and diminish all private schools. Meanwhile certain public schools live and breath under special rules that give them an inherent advantage over every other public school in their class with a kiss of love from the LHSAA. Others are sent to the time out closet with the private schools for the playoffs. As long as special rules exist that benefit schools in parishes that they are the only school to offer a specific sport, they will have that advantage. An advantage that is not extended to the private schools. For example if a private school was zoned Zwolle, (just an example) and they started a football program, the home zone for that school would be the same as Zwolle high. EVERY student who went to that private school who lived out of the Zwolle zone would be ineligible for football for one year, even thought Zwolle High does not offer football. Only those who live in the Zwolle zone would be allowed to compete as freshmen. Meanwhile, they can legitimately enroll at Many and be immediately eligible. Thus it is a double standard and hypocritical for them to demonize private schools. It also shows that membership in the LHSAA does give all school equal rights. There are second had citizens in the LHSAA. Actually they do have to sit out a year if they enroll in Many, unless they make a legitimate move into Manys attendance zone. This is probably why most kids choose not to attend Many because they dont wanna sit out for Basketball or Baseball, so they just stay at their home school.
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 12:37:32 GMT -6
Most on here would agree that the LHSAA and the principals have mishandled this whole split thingy. There is an inherent double standard designed to punish and diminish all private schools. Meanwhile certain public schools live and breath under special rules that give them an inherent advantage over every other public school in their class with a kiss of love from the LHSAA. Others are sent to the time out closet with the private schools for the playoffs. As long as special rules exist that benefit schools in parishes that they are the only school to offer a specific sport, they will have that advantage. An advantage that is not extended to the private schools. For example if a private school was zoned Zwolle, (just an example) and they started a football program, the home zone for that school would be the same as Zwolle high. EVERY student who went to that private school who lived out of the Zwolle zone would be ineligible for football for one year, even thought Zwolle High does not offer football. Only those who live in the Zwolle zone would be allowed to compete as freshmen. Meanwhile, they can legitimately enroll at Many and be immediately eligible. Thus it is a double standard and hypocritical for them to demonize private schools. It also shows that membership in the LHSAA does give all school equal rights. There are second had citizens in the LHSAA. I will go along with you on one this. LHSAA and the principals have miss handled it, oK. What should happen in any organization when you have the apparent differences in views that the LHSAA has? The answer is the LEADER OF LHSAA, has to bring everyone to the table and work towards solving the issues. Can anyone tell me what Bonine has done to try and solve the problem? This is what I have seen. 1. First year give a year to look at it and come up with a solution. DID NOTHING. 2. Waited until the agenda was out for the next meeting and then announced the split is void back to old system. THIS REALLY BROUGHT EVERYONE BACK TOGETHER. 3. Then we got into revote, revote, dumpster fire and so on and nothing changed.
What has Bonine brought to the table beside distrust? That is where I put the blame! And no blame on Booker/Griffen and their clones? It doesn't matter who the ED is when you have clowns pulling the puppet strings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 12:44:06 GMT -6
I will go along with you on one this. LHSAA and the principals have miss handled it, oK. What should happen in any organization when you have the apparent differences in views that the LHSAA has? The answer is the LEADER OF LHSAA, has to bring everyone to the table and work towards solving the issues. Can anyone tell me what Bonine has done to try and solve the problem? This is what I have seen. 1. First year give a year to look at it and come up with a solution. DID NOTHING. 2. Waited until the agenda was out for the next meeting and then announced the split is void back to old system. THIS REALLY BROUGHT EVERYONE BACK TOGETHER. 3. Then we got into revote, revote, dumpster fire and so on and nothing changed.
What has Bonine brought to the table beside distrust? That is where I put the blame! And no blame on Booker/Griffen and their clones? It doesn't matter who the ED is when you have clowns pulling the puppet strings. Booker and Griffen only have one vote. 65% of the LHSAA agree with them. Bonine was brought in to help bring things back together, but tried to strong arm everyone. Made the divide permanent.
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Post by btown on Nov 17, 2016 12:44:30 GMT -6
I will go along with you on one this. LHSAA and the principals have miss handled it, oK. What should happen in any organization when you have the apparent differences in views that the LHSAA has? The answer is the LEADER OF LHSAA, has to bring everyone to the table and work towards solving the issues. Can anyone tell me what Bonine has done to try and solve the problem? This is what I have seen. 1. First year give a year to look at it and come up with a solution. DID NOTHING. 2. Waited until the agenda was out for the next meeting and then announced the split is void back to old system. THIS REALLY BROUGHT EVERYONE BACK TOGETHER. 3. Then we got into revote, revote, dumpster fire and so on and nothing changed.
What has Bonine brought to the table beside distrust? That is where I put the blame! And no blame on Booker/Griffen and their clones? It doesn't matter who the ED is when you have clowns pulling the puppet strings. What is the point of a leader if he is not going to lead?
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Post by indy on Nov 17, 2016 12:51:50 GMT -6
And no blame on Booker/Griffen and their clones? It doesn't matter who the ED is when you have clowns pulling the puppet strings. Booker and Griffen only have one vote. 65% of the LHSAA agree with them. Bonine was brought in to help bring things back together, but tried to strong arm everyone. Made the divide permanent. Booker/Griffin conspired, colluded, plotted and manipulated their clones for years, including non football schools to get their vote. This is common knowledge now with the LHSAA Wikileaks's due to the freedom of information act.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Nov 17, 2016 12:56:38 GMT -6
Most on here would agree that the LHSAA and the principals have mishandled this whole split thingy. There is an inherent double standard designed to punish and diminish all private schools. Meanwhile certain public schools live and breath under special rules that give them an inherent advantage over every other public school in their class with a kiss of love from the LHSAA. Others are sent to the time out closet with the private schools for the playoffs. As long as special rules exist that benefit schools in parishes that they are the only school to offer a specific sport, they will have that advantage. An advantage that is not extended to the private schools. For example if a private school was zoned Zwolle, (just an example) and they started a football program, the home zone for that school would be the same as Zwolle high. EVERY student who went to that private school who lived out of the Zwolle zone would be ineligible for football for one year, even thought Zwolle High does not offer football. Only those who live in the Zwolle zone would be allowed to compete as freshmen. Meanwhile, they can legitimately enroll at Many and be immediately eligible. Thus it is a double standard and hypocritical for them to demonize private schools. It also shows that membership in the LHSAA does give all school equal rights. There are second had citizens in the LHSAA. Actually they do have to sit out a year if they enroll in Many, unless they make a legitimate move into Manys attendance zone. This is probably why most kids choose not to attend Many because they dont wanna sit out for Basketball or Baseball, so they just stay at their home school. Not saying your wrong but when I was at MHS in the 80's I know of at least 4 who came from other schools...Negreet zone & Zwolle zone. Now 1 from the Negreet zone started in the 8th grade so that may have been why he didn't have to sit, the other 2 from Negreet may have been legitimate move. The 1 from Zwolle transferred soph yr and was immediately eligible played as a soph, started as Jr. but quit football his Sr year to concentrate of Bball but didn't have to go back to Zwolle. The rules may be different now but I know this happened and I talk regularly to all of them.
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